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George Galloway vs. Zionist argument in favor of Israel
I found this video on youtube, I think the main and very funny reason for the existence of state of Israel is their "God given" right to rule on that land, keeping in view the fact that they disown God being secular, anyways here is an interesting encounter on base of Zionist argument between George Galloway and a Zaionist caller, watch, comment and take part in pole to decide whose argument was rational and justified;
"I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw
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Well appearantly religious zionists, who I think are a minority, believe that zionism will show god how much the love him and that as a result salvation will come earlier. That's why they want Jerusalem so badly.
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So we have crazy arguing with crazy, and your asking for us to chose a side. I pick neither. But in this case i agree with Galloway on the 1700 years argument it was and is a poor reason for justifying Israel's existence. Especially considering there are much better and legitimate ways to do so.
However I find it amusing that Galloway relies on the 'born here' argument, as that argument now applies to most Israelis.
Last edited by Their Law; August 02, 2011 at 04:42 AM.
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Very well, but would you please tell me why he is a crazy, or anyone who opposes neo British American crusade is crazy?Originally Posted by Their Law
"I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw
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Since you've tried to put words in my mouth again I'll split this sentence down.
He is a self serving demagogue who shifts his views according to what he thinks will garner the most support.Very well, but would you please tell me why he is a crazy,
I did not say that, i said it's crazy vs crazy implying that i consider George Galloway a clown of a politician and that i consider the man's views on the radio crazy. Nothing more, nothing less.or anyone who opposes neo British American crusade is crazy?
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I never heard he shifted his views, he is very much balanced I think. He never denies the holocaust theory like most of Muslims of their sympathizers, he loves Palestinian freedom fight but he does not support Hamas, he speaks again Western intervention in Libya but at the same moment he calls Ghadafi as a joker and a dictator. He is balanced and less nationalistic.
Now shouldn't we change our course slightly from the person to the topic?
"I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw
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A perfectly logical theory right there.
"Ghadaffi is a murderous, tyrannous sociopath under whom the Libyan people suffer and are oppressed. Ergo, we should pursue an a policy of actively doing nothing about this."
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His views are not my issue, i simply believe he doesn't actually stand for them, rather he stands for whatever will garner the most attention. Take for example your own ex president Musharraf, upon the 1999 coup Galloway was a stringent supporter of it and the president, going as far to say that it's the duty of the military to overrule the civilian authority (a quote alone which would have turned me against him), and yet as soon as the wind changed he switched to outspoken criticism.
He's claimed to be anti imperialist and yet was a supporter of the USSR. Claimed democracy is a means not an end and yet justified Cuba's repressive tendency's by stating it was more democratic than the USA and UK and thus above criticism. Criticises human right's abuses in western states but was a stringent support of Saddam's regime and the current Iranian one.
The man is a self serving hypocrite.
And no, i think discussing George Galloway's [lack of] credibility is perfectly on topic considering your OP features him as one of the two opposing viewpoints.
Last edited by Their Law; August 02, 2011 at 07:07 AM.
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Re: George Galloway vs. Zionist argument in favor of Israel
He doesn't support Hamas?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFGIbaabTU
Oh btw, Galloway has a long track record of lying through his teeth. He is frequently found out saying one thing to one group and completely misrepresenting what he said to another group. He is incredibly hypocritical, jumping on any opportunity to attack the US and it allies for "Imperialistic" policies whilst saying that the fall of the USSR was the saddest day in his life. He denies the Tienanmen Square massacre because it doesn't sit with his own prejudices. He is the ultimate US=bad, anyone who hates the USA=good populist.
PS: How do u actually link a vid using the little youtube button? Whenever I put a link inside the tags I just get a blank square that says youtube.
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Re: George Galloway vs. Zionist argument in favor of Israel
There are lots of cases of 'occupiers' deciding matters for indigenous peoples in the past, we accept these as realities, but often not the situation in Israel. I wonder why?Seriously?do you mean that Americans today may give right to any clan of xenophobic idiots to come and settle in Iraq and Afghanistan without prior permission of people living there?It's the reality of the situation and they had right by conquest.That's cruel and just a school boys' play,
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George Galloway is a worthless, self-serving, borderline criminal, populist demagogue.
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Source?
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George Galloway
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even the strawman is right sometimes.
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Re: George Galloway vs. Zionist argument in favor of Israel
You should hear George arguing with a female BNP member he kicks her ass.She was drunk at the time though
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Ah yes, how could we forget Pakistan's fight for freedom to impose warlordism and islamism on Afghanistan. Silly us.
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When you need George Galloway to make an argument for you then you know your side is in trouble!
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How? He is a marvelous speaker and no body may stand before him on the issue in discussion, especially he is very well informed on Palestine-Israel conflict. I am really impressed by him. Or why don't you prove me wrong and destroy the arguments he gave in this video?
"I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw
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Re: George Galloway vs. Zionist argument in favor of Israel
See Ferrets above statement. Now I realise you'll seek out anyone that believes the same things you do and praise him as being a prodigy, I've no doubt he was in your opinion composing symphonies at the age of 5 but please have the decency to find someone who isn't considered an idiot by the majority of the UK population with good reason. He is just a reactionary populist scumbag.How? He is a marvelous speaker and no body may stand before him on the issue in discussion, especially he is very well informed on Palestine-Israel conflict. I am really impressed by him. Or why don't you prove me wrong and destroy the arguments he gave in this video?
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I support a Jewish state, I just wish for a compromise in the region. And Calloway is talking about birth and all that, but the current Israelis were born in Israel.
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