Trailer for Red Tails (WWII movie on the Tuskegee Airmen)

I'm freaking pumped. This looks like it could be Glory, but at 20,000 feet against Germans.



Cuba Gooding Jr.? Check.
Bryan Cranston? Check.
Me262s? Check.
George Lucas wrote it (but isn't directing or doing the screenplay!). Check.

For those non-Americans who aren't aware of their claim to fame, The Tuskegee Airmen was a fighter group composed entirely of African-Americans who served in the USAAF throughout WWII.

Because of segregationist attitudes at the time it wasn't believed that Blacks could be as proficient as Whites in operating advanced hardware, in fact it was nearly impossible for a Black man to even get a pilots license in the country, so the Tuskegee Airmen were treated badly right off the bat, and the program that allowed for their training as a testbed for future integration was nearly canceled.

The pilots who made it through the training (which the Air Force made incredibly slanted) were not treated fairly at all during the war, but managed to excel despite it. IIRC by war's end they had the best record for escorting bombers out of every other flying unit, with some bomber squadrons specifically asking to be covered by the "red-tailed angels" as they were called. Their performance proved to be a major factor that led to President Truman's order to integrate the US military in 1948, and of the survivors still alive today they often get places of honor at any aviation events they attend. These guys were real heroes.

Looks good.

Looks a little CG heavy but hey, so was Fly Boys...I look forward to it...

Hate CGI rich movies.

Only movies to use CGI to enhance the script and the actors were:

Jurassic Park & Avatar.

Also, they should show real planes for God's sake!

Give me : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075627/

and I'll watch it anytime.

Also, I fail to see why were Blacks more proficient at blowing up Germans out of the skies...

Originally Posted by Lord of the Drunk Penguin

Hate CGI rich movies.

Only movies to use CGI to enhance the script and the actors were:

Jurassic Park & Avatar.

Also, they should show real planes for God's sake!

And how exactly do you represent a 600+ Flying Fortress bomberstream, escorted by some 200 US fighters and being attacked by 100+ German fighters, when the heavy bombers that fly today can be counted on the fingers on one hand, when the surviving airworthy Me-109 are even less. And Airworthy in this context means "good for airshows", not for combat. When you find answer to that question, I'm sure the CEOs of more than a few movie-making corporations would gladly hear you out. Until then...

Originally Posted by Lord of the Drunk Penguin

Also, I fail to see why were Blacks more proficient at blowing up Germans out of the skies...

Not Afroamericans in general. These pilots, the Tuskegee airmen, were subjected to much, much more strict acceptance criteria than white pilots. It might be fiction, although I doubt it, what I remember from the last movie with Lawrence Fishburn and Cuba Gooding Jr, their proficiency tests were never lower than 94%. As a group. And they are not famous for blowing Germans from the sky, although they did blow quite a few of them. They are remembered for preventing the Germans from blowing US bombers from the sky. Do you grasp the slight but important difference?

P.S. Aces High uses mocked-up civilian biplanes. You can't do that with WWII aircraft.

CGI FTW!

lmao at the Me262s, this is gonna be very entertaining.

Originally Posted by Augment

lmao at the Me262s, this is gonna be very entertaining.

I don't think you'll be laughing your ass off when that tidbit is actually historically accurate.

The Tuskegee Airmen were credited with shooting down 3 Me262s towards the end of the war.

Oh...and they really did sink a German destroyer too.

Originally Posted by Caelius

I don't think you'll be laughing your ass off when that tidbit is actually historically accurate.

The Tuskegee Airmen were credited with shooting down 3 Me262s towards the end of the war.

Oh...and they really did sink a German destroyer too.

Hot damn! i knew the USAF and RAF spotted some Me262s doing fly-bys but i thought they werent capable of doing real damage because their fly time was so short.

Originally Posted by Augment

Hot damn! i knew the USAF and RAF spotted some Me262s doing fly-bys but i thought they werent capable of doing real damage because their fly time was so short.

You're confusing them with ME-163's. ME-262's saw quite a bit of combat.

nein nein nein !

Oh yesyesyes !

Shame about the heavy CGI but still that looks like its gonna be a good film.

Just the other day I went thinking "what happened to that Tuskegee Airmen movie that George Lucas was working on"

Glad to see something of it. Looks really good, I haven't got much against CGI per see, and I can totally understand that they'd use it for a movie like this.

The only film that has managed to use real authentic WWII airplanes in a relative great number is Catch-22:


That ain't done in a computer lads! But then ofcourse, as someone stated before, it'd be hard to do it when 700+ planes are needed...

[edit] Hopefully the trailer wasn't a showcase of the actual soundeffects in the movie...lot of silence when there would've been roars from the engines.

Looks god. I hadn't really heard of these guys before but I've just gone away and done a bit of research.

Originally Posted by Biggles

The only film that has managed to use real authentic WWII airplanes in a relative great number is Catch-22:

You are forgetting the Battle of Britain:

Wasn't he a Tuskegee airman in Hart's war?

Originally Posted by irelandeb

Wasn't he a Tuskegee airman in Hart's war?

Yes, maybe he ends up shot down and sent to the prison camp in the end of the movie.

I fear this movie will have heavy PC and portray the Tuskegge Airmen as the only capable fighter pilots in the air force and the germans will end up dead by the dozen.

Originally Posted by Roloc

Yes, maybe he ends up shot down and sent to the prison camp in the end of the movie.

I fear this movie will have heavy PC and portray the Tuskegge Airmen as the only capable fighter pilots in the air force and the germans will end up dead by the dozen.

Or maybe it will be realistic and account for the fact that the War Department tried to hamper the unit's creation from the get go making the requirements to serve so extremely stringent that the pilots that did make it were absolutely the best and brightest thus leading to Germans dying by the dozens.

Originally Posted by Captain Jin

Or maybe it will be realistic and account for the fact that the War Department tried to hamper the unit's creation from the get go making the requirements to serve so extremely stringent that the pilots that did make it were absolutely the best and brightest thus leading to Germans dying by the dozens.

This. It's what i'm hoping will set it apart from other war films.

meh, another film about shooting germans.. why cant any big pictures be a bit daring these days?

Originally Posted by Eirmar

meh, another film about shooting germans.. why cant any big pictures be a bit daring these days?

Your missing the point this isn't "another movie about shooting germans". I'm sure the point of this movie is more about a group of people overcoming stereotypes and racism.

I don't know how you left out Terrence Howard in your checks there... he's awesome. Interesting to see Cuba back in a major Hollywood film again.