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    Default The God of Existential Realism

    The main argument:


    The Universe cannot be the source of its own existence because it is
    mutable. Therefore there must be a Supreme Being whose Essence is
    Existence who causes the Universe to exist.


    To understand why the Universe cannot be the source of its own
    existence consider what would be the case if it were. For the Universe
    to be the source of its own existence, Existence (the act which causes
    things to exist) must be part of its Essence.


    Since, by assumption, Existence is part of the Essence of the
    Universe, then the Universe must always be the way it is now. After
    all, Existence is part of the Essence of the Universe, therefore
    Existence forces the Universe to Be what it is forever. IOW, because
    the Universe has Existence as part of its Essence, it cannot be
    something other than that which it is.


    Therefore, by assumption, the Universe is immutable. But that is not
    what we observe. Physicists observe a mutable Universe. Therefore the
    Universe cannot have Existence as part of its Essence, and therefore
    it cannot be the source of its own existence. Therefore there must be
    a Supreme Being whose Essence is Existence and is the source of the
    existence of the Universe.


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    One of the surest ways to start a big argument in philosophy is for
    two people to adopt different Worldviews. According to Webster, the
    Worldview (aka " Weltanschauung") is


    Worldview: a comprehensive conception or apprehension of the world
    especially from a specific standpoint


    More specifically the Worldview is the epistemological basis, plus its
    supporting ontology, for your rational system. It is the set of axioms
    about how you view reality. It should be obvious that if your view of
    reality is fundamentally different from my view of reality, we can
    never argue our points to one another even though we may adhere to
    rational arguments within the framework of our separate systems.


    The two most promiment Worldview can be understood in terms of
    "objectivity" and "subjectivity". We call the Worldview that claims
    reality is objective by the name Realism. We call the Worldview that
    claims reality is subjective by the name Idealism. I do not pretend to
    know everything about Worldviews so I am not going to go any further
    with this. But I do know enough to point out that certain rational
    systems of thought are based on an objective Realist Worldview (eg,
    Physics) and some are based on a subjective Idealist Worldview (eg,
    Mathematics).


    Physics is based on the Worldview of Objective Realism. There is no
    doubt in the mind of the Physicst that electrons actually do exist in
    objective reality. If you don't believe that - if you think electrons
    are subjective constructs like the tooth fairy, then you will allow
    yourself to be hooked up to a high voltage source. After about 1
    millisecond you will decidethat electrons are very real.


    Mathematics is based on the Worldview of Subjective Idealism. There
    are no such things as "numbers" in objective reality. There is no such
    thing as a circle in objective reality. If you don't agree, then I
    will let you connect me to a number or to a circle. I guarantee that
    nothing will happen, because numbers, circles and everything in
    Mathematics are subjective constructs that reside completely in the
    mind of the Mathematician.


    One of the most fundamental axioms of Objective Realism (aka
    "Existential Realism") is the Principle of Apprehension of Being. This
    is also known as the Authority of the Senses. Something exists in
    objective reality precisely because there is something out there that
    can affect your senses - like the shock from a high voltage source.


    The Apprehension of Being - the awareness of something out there - is
    very primitive. A new born infant puts his hand on a hot stove burner
    and immediately becomes aware of "something out there". He does not
    know what it is, but he definitely knows it is there.


    This Principle is not found in Mathematics. There is no "thing out
    there" in Mathematics. Everything in Mathematics is contained in your
    mind, subjectively. So the very first distinction between Objective
    Realism and Subjective Idealism is that Realism adopts the Principle
    of Apprehension of Being, and Subjective Idealism does not. This is
    critical to deciding on which Worldview you must adopt for any
    particular rational system.


    Next there is the Principle of Consistency. This is Aristotle's
    terminology for the notion of Non-Contradiction. This principle states
    that there cannot be both "A" and "Not-A" in existence at the same
    time. Either "A" exists or "Not-A" exists. Remember we are talking
    about things out there - what we apprehend as Being. Something can
    either Be or Not-Be. It cannot both exist and not exist at the same
    time.


    The third fundamental principle of Existential Realism is the
    Principle of Causality. In Physics we realize that without Causality
    there could be no Order. The reason is simple - for you to describe
    the Order inherent in something, you must connect the ojects by
    Causality. If you merely describe objects without connecting them
    Causally, then you cannot describe the Order they exhibit because
    there is no heirarchy to provide the disctinctions needed to describe
    the Order.


    Try describing an atom without invoking Causality. You will not be
    able to talk about the Order inherent in an atom, in which case you
    are forced to describe as a glob of amorphous matter. But we know
    better than that because we know that an atom is a highly ordered
    entity capable of doing very ordered things, like emitting a photon of
    very precise wavelength. That can happen only if an atom is Ordered,
    and it can be Ordered only if there is Causality with which to create
    the Order based on the heirarchy of cause and effect.


    From here we move on to Metaphysics, which is the Science that
    explains Being. That is what Aristotle meant by it - the Science of
    Existence. But whatever it is, it is critical to realize that it is
    based on Physics ("Meta-Physics", after Physics, about Physics) - and
    that Physics is based on the Worldview of Existential Realism.


    Assuming that you adopt the Worldview of Existential Realism, we can
    now present the argument that the Supreme Being exists. In fact we
    will also show that the Supreme Being *must* exist or reality would
    not exist.


    This argument was first given by Thomas Aquinas in his book on
    Metaphysics entitled "On Being and Essence". This argument is not
    taken from his religious book entitled "Summa Theologica". The famous
    "five-fold ways" from the Summa are religious arguments. The arguments
    we give below are based on Existential Metaphysics and not on faith.


    The Universe is mutable. Not only is that intuitively obvious but it
    is codified in Physics. Physics is the science which explains how
    physical objects can exist at one moment and can cease to exist at
    another. That's what is meant by "mutable" in Existential Metaphysics.


    Mutable objects cannot be the cause of their own existence. The reason
    requires some thinking, so either put away whatever is distracting you
    and pay close attention - or this will go completely over your head.


    There are several kinds of causes in Aristotle's Metaphysics. Here we
    are talking about the "Efficient Cause", the one which is responsible
    for an object to exist in an essential way. If I hit a baseball with a
    bat, the bat is the efficient cause of the baseball flying thru the
    air.


    The baseball cannot spontaneously fly - it does not possess "Flying
    Thru The Air" as part of its Essence (its Nature, its Design, its
    Internal Construction, its Intrinsic Behavior, etc.). If it did
    possess Flying Thru The Air as part of its Essence, then it would
    always be Flying Thru The Air - it could never stop Flying Thru The
    Air because that is its Nature.


    Therefore in order for the baseball to Fly Thru The Air, some separate
    object which possesses the Efficient Cause to make the ball Fly Thru
    The Air must act on the ball - like a bat. This relationship between
    the bat (Cause) and the ball Flying Thru The Air (Effect) is what we
    call Causality.


    The critical point here is to understand that mutable objects cannot
    be the source of their own Existence, because if they were, they would
    be forced for all time to be the same thing they were when they were
    created.


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    Consider what it means "To Be". Don't get bogged down in what it means
    to be a particular kind of being, just focus on the "Act of Being",
    the "Act of Existence".


    One way to do that is to consider what it means not To Be. You as a
    person were once non-existent. What was it like? Of course if you did
    not exist you did not have an essence therefore you can't consider
    what kind of being you were not. You were not any kind of being when
    you did not exist.


    OK, now that you have had time to consider Being and NonBeing, do you
    get the idea that there must be some kind of entity that has always
    existed in order to explain how you and the whole Universe can exist?
    You cannot possibly be the cause of your own existence because before
    you existed, you did not exist. It would be absurd to claim that a
    nonexistent could cause itself to exist.


    But even if you existed for all eternity, you still cannot be the
    source of your own existence or else you would always be the same kind
    of being that you were for all eternity. You could not die, for
    example. You could not grow, for example. But that is not how it works
    - you will die one day, you did grow from an embryo to an adult.
    Therefore you cannot be the source of your own existence.


    The same kind of reasoning applies to the Universe as a whole. Whether
    the Universe came into being at a moment in time or whether it has
    always existed, it is a mutable entity and therefore cannot be the
    source of its own existence. If it makes a transition to a new state,
    which according to Physics it does constantly, how is this new state
    going to be if it was not before? How can this new state come into
    existence if it had no existence prior to its coming into existence?
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    Mutable objects cannot have Existence as part of their Essence. Their
    Existence must come from a separate entity, one which is the cause of
    their existence. This entity causes mutable objects to exist since
    mutable objects cannot be the cause of their own existence - or else
    they would not be mutable.


    The entity that causes mutable objects to exist must itself possess
    Existence as its Essence. It is fundamentally different from all other
    entities in objective reality. It is the one and only entity that has
    Existence as its Essence. If it did not have Existence as part of its
    Essence, it would not be able to cause the existence of mutable
    objects.


    This entity that causes the existence of mutable objects does not
    require a cause of its existence because IT IS EXISTENCE. That's what
    is meant by saying that its Essence is Existence.


    No where in this argument have I mentioned anything about this entity
    other than that its Essence is Existence, because we need to have an
    entity that causes the existence of mutable objects. No where have I
    referred to this entity as God or Supreme Being. Therefore I have not
    gone in circles, I have not begged any question.


    I started with the Worldview of Existential Realism and a few of its
    most fundamental axioms. Then I argued that the mutable objects of
    physical reality (the Universe) could not be the cause of their own
    existence. Then I argued that some entity must exist that causes these
    mutable objects to exist, and that the Essence of this entity must be
    Existence itself. This entity is immutable because its Essence is to
    Be only one kind of entity, namely Existence. Furthermore, this entity
    - called the Supreme Being - *must* exist, or else nothing in reality
    would exist. The Supreme Being is known as the Necessary Being.


    No real event in Physics has ever violated Causality because it is
    literally built in to the laws of Physics. If Causality were violated,
    all of Physics as we know it would be invalid and then we would be in
    a lot of trouble because all those predicitions we made using that
    invalid Physics would also be invalid. That means the world as we
    lived in it was one huge lucky happening. Clearly that is absurd.


    The first man to walk on the Moon or the first man to build a fission
    reactor did not accomplish those tasks by blind luck. They were
    carefully planned using the accurate predictions of Physics. Those
    predictions were valid because it would be absurd to claim things just
    happened that way. Therefore Causality is here to stay - there can be
    no extension of Physics where Causality is not valid.


    If you want you can claim that the reason the existence of the Supreme
    Being is contained in the Worldview of Existential Realism is because
    of the Order inherent in the objective world. That Order - Symmetry
    -causes objective reality to be a certain kind of reality, one with
    the constraints that are imposed by Existential Realism.


    The Principle of Apprehension of Being, the Principle of Consistency
    and the Principle of Causality all result in constraints on objective
    reality. That's what separates the ordered objective world from the
    chaotic subjective world. Things in objective reality are constrained
    to behave in an Orderly manner - in a Symmetric manner. It is the
    Supreme Being who enforces those laws because they are part of what is
    meant by Existence. Existence is Ordered, Symmetric.


    OK, there you have it - the argument for the necessary existence of
    the Supreme Being of Existential Metaphysics. And all it required was
    for you to adopt the same Worldview that scientists must adopt to be
    productive, such as when they put men on the Moon and build nuclear
    reactors without vaporizing half of Chicago in the process.


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    Definitions


    realism: Belief that universals exist independently of the particulars
    that instantiate them. Realists hold that each general term signifies
    a real feature or quality, which is numerically the same in all the
    things to which that term applies.


    metaphysics: Branch of philosophy concerned with providing a
    comprehensive account of the most general features of reality as a
    whole; the study of being as such. Questions about the existence and
    nature of minds, bodies, god, space, time, causality, unity, identity,
    and the world are all metaphysical issues.


    ontology: Branch of metaphysics concerned with identifying, in the
    most general terms, the kinds of things that actually exist. Thus, the
    "ontological commitments" of a philosophical position include both its
    explicit assertions and its implicit presuppositions about the
    existence of entities, substances, or beings of particular kinds.


    The Four Causes: Causes of all four sorts are necessary elements in
    any adequate account of the existence and nature of the thing,
    Aristotle believed, since the absence or modification of any one of
    them would result in the existence of a thing of some different sort.
    Moreover, an explanation that includes all four causes completely
    captures the significance and reality of the thing itself.


    The material cause is the basic stuff out of which the thing is made.
    The material cause of a house, for example, would include the wood,
    metal, glass, and other building materials used in its construction.
    All of these things belong in an explanation of the house because it
    could not exist unless they were present in its composition.


    The formal cause is the pattern or essence in conformity with which
    these materials are assembled. Thus, the formal cause of our exemplary
    house would be the sort of thing that is represented on a blueprint of
    its design. This, too, is part of the explanation of the house, since
    its materials would be only a pile of rubble (or a different house) if
    they were not put together in this way.


    The efficient cause is the agent or force immediately responsible for
    bringing this matter and that form together in the production of the
    thing. Thus, the efficient cause of the house would include the
    carpenters, masons, plumbers, and other workers who used these
    materials to build the house in accordance with the blueprint for its
    construction. Clearly the house would not be what it is without their
    contribution.


    The final cause is the end or purpose for which a thing exists, so the
    final cause of our house would be to provide shelter for human beings.
    This is part of the explanation of the house's existence because it
    would never have been built unless someone needed it as a place to
    live.

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    I recieved this in an email from a friend, an interesting piece on the whole I must say. Opinions?
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    Since, by assumption, Existence is part of the Essence of the
    Universe, then the Universe must always be the way it is now. After
    all, Existence is part of the Essence of the Universe, therefore
    Existence forces the Universe to Be what it is forever. IOW, because
    the Universe has Existence as part of its Essence, it cannot be
    something other than that which it is.
    Nope, just because the universe exists for ever it doesn't have to exist for ever in its current state, only exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tostig
    Nope, just because the universe exists for ever it doesn't have to exist for ever in its current state, only exist.

    Thats what its saying, the Universe cannot be the cause of its own existence since its mutable. Something else must be causing it to exist, something which has existence as its essential nature (?). The problem with this argument I find is that this thing (which is causing the universe to exist) is not "mutable", it cannot change, hence it cannot be God in any religious sense. The God of religion is not static, it is capable of activity (which means it is capable of change). I found it interesting anyway.
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    This whole argument assumes that there must universally be a "source" for existence. So it's just a repackaged version of the First Cause argument, complete with the same weaknesses.

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    How can the universe exiist onits own without help it doesint make sence.
    Thats why i believe in god
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    Most people are religious in the strict definitional sense, meaning they believe in something or another. Some higher power. Some reason for existance. But that doesn't necessarily mean they believe in the Bible. In case its true that the Universe doesn't exist on its own, that piece alone certainly isn't automatic validation for the Bible.

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