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    Default Commemorate Srebrenica with these Rare and Important Videos

    Very interesting article

    Warning, some of the videos are very graphic.


    http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2665
    Last edited by Tzar; July 29, 2011 at 12:09 PM.
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    So you think that all those people that were killed were actually Muslim soldiers slaughtering Serbs? Because that's what the very first sentence of the article claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkLordSeth View Post
    So you think that all those people that were killed were actually Muslim soldiers slaughtering Serbs? Because that's what the very first sentence of the article claims.
    Most likely, with few exceptions. But, those “exceptions” and “mistakes” keep happening to every army.
    How many thousands of civilians NATO forces killed by “accident” in IRAQ, Afghanistan and Libya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzar View Post
    Most likely, with few exceptions. But, those “exceptions” and “mistakes” keep happening to every army.
    How many thousands of civilians NATO forces killed by “accident” in IRAQ, Afghanistan and Libya?
    Seriously? That's what you believe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzar View Post
    Most likely, with few exceptions. But, those “exceptions” and “mistakes” keep happening to every army.
    How many thousands of civilians NATO forces killed by “accident” in IRAQ, Afghanistan and Libya?
    NATO combat forces were never in Iraq and involved in fighting, so they couldn't have killed anyone there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzar View Post
    Most likely, with few exceptions. But, those “exceptions” and “mistakes” keep happening to every army.
    How many thousands of civilians NATO forces killed by “accident” in IRAQ, Afghanistan and Libya?
    Oh god...

    Here we go again.

    Yeah, because the causalities by NATO were surely an act of ethnic cleansing of a population right? NATO wants to create more of an ethnicity in a given area to vote for Serbian politicians.
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    ITT Serbs try to excuse a massacre again.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    ITT Serbs try to excuse a massacre again.
    Did you read the whole story and watched the videos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzar View Post
    Did you read the whole story and watched the videos?
    Did you answer my question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzar View Post
    Did you read the whole story and watched the videos?
    I didn't, because it's irrelevant. It doesn't change the fact that the Serbs committed atrocities. It's pathetic apologism.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    It could be another "Inconvenient Truth",but it will be called revisionism.

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    Where do people find this stuff, seriously is there some sort of conspiracy theory master list that people draw from?
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    They just lack imagination.

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    Someone pass the Kool-Aid.

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    Summarise this, for me OP, are you denying war crimes?

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    ITT Serb proving yet again that we should have occupied and put them through 'denazification' the same as was done to Germany. Forcing deniers face first into the mass graves and stamping on them when they try to climb out.

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    It's very weird that we don't have any Serbian members who take a particularly progressive view of their country. It's not a fair cross section of the population.

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    Julia Gorin is among the most recognized names in
    conservative comedy. She was profiled in the 2005 book
    South Park Conservatives, and her humor was featured in
    "Penthouse" magazine. Julia's jokes are among the "1,500
    Best Jokes Ever Told" in Penguin Group's newly released
    Complete Idiot's Guide to Jokes.

    In 2004, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution ran Julia's
    jokes and photo alongside Jon Stewart's and Jay Leno's in
    a special election humor feature. Julia also performed for
    Republican Convention delegates that year at Times
    Square's "Laugh Factory," which landed her in both Cindy
    Adams' and Newsweek's gossip columns. Her one-woman
    stand-up show "Republican Riot" received wide coverage,
    and Julia has appeared on "Politically Incorrect," "Fuse TV,"
    "Hannity & Colmes," "Fox 'n Friends," as well as on ABC,
    CBS and NBC news programs. Her articles frequently get
    her invited onto talk radio, and they’ve been objected to by
    the offices of UN Secretary General Kofi Annan (whoever
    that is), and his future successor Bill Clinton, aspiring
    President of the World. She blogs at JuliaGorin.com and at
    the just-launched "Political Mavens"--a celebrity-studded
    conservative answer to Arianna's "Huffington Post."
    Her bio has convinced me the article is part of a joke.
    Last edited by Visna; July 30, 2011 at 04:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visna View Post
    Her bio has convinced me the article is part of a joke.
    A comedian. Brilliant!

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    I have many "Bosnian" friends. Many years ago, when they first came here as refugees, I asked one of them what was it all about, and who was the bad guys? As an American, i could never figure out what it was really all about, and why were they killing each other.
    He asked that I watch the film "pretty village, pretty flame". That he felt it gave the best representation of what was going on. Well I watched it, and I when I saw him afterward, the only thing I could say about it was that I was even more confused. All sides were killing each other in horrible detail, and with seemingly meaningless motivations.

    He then told me that was why he wanted me to see it.

    That the day before the war began, he and his wife and his mothers family had a "cookout" with his lifelong neighbor, and childhood friend.

    yet within the next day, after the "cookout" it was neighbor killing neighbor.

    His point was that it was complete insanity.

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