~~Your Guide to Islam ~~

**katsusand** · March 25, 2006, 09:48 PM

Hello Every body ,

Here is one of the best sites to explain islam , it has everything in it
and with diffrenet languages

http://www.islam-guide.com English

http://www.islam-guide.com/fr French

http://www.islam-guide.com/it Italian

http://www.islam-guide.com/es Spanish

http://www.islam-guide.com/cs/ chinese

http://www.islam-guide.com/jp/ Japanese

http://www.islam-guide.com/de/ Deutsch

http://www.islam-guide.com/no/ Norwegian

http://www.islam-guide.com/cs/ Simplified Chinese

http://www.islam-guide.com/ct/ Traditional Chinese ((Under Construction And it will be opend in August if god wills it ))

http://www.islam-guide.com/ru/ Russian ((Under Construction And it will be opend in August if god wills it ))

You can get the book on PDF too !!
http://www.islam-guide.com/islam-guide.pdf

At last but not least

this is a very good site to let you learn about the prophet muhammed peace be upon him

http://www.islamway.com/mohammad/

I wish you good luck

Peace.......

**Primvs Sextvs Loverlord** · March 25, 2006, 10:13 PM

They're not very comprehensive and they don't tackle the issue misunderstood, or deliberately misunderstood, by most non-Muslims - Jihad.

**katsusand** · March 25, 2006, 10:24 PM

Huh? Are you sure ? Type Jihad in the "search" and you will see ^^

It is very comprehensive believe me

Peace........

**Guderian** · March 25, 2006, 10:27 PM

I downloaded a copy the Quran myself, although mine's a different version (The Noble Quran in the English Language, A Summarized Version of At-Tabari, Al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir, with comments from Sahih Al-Bukhar, By Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali, Ph.D. Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan)

Haven't read it yet (it's huge), but I've noticed alot of people mis-quote and mis-interpret the Quran (in some cases on purpose). For example on another forum a guy quoted this excerpt:

qur’an 2:246 “He said: ‘Would you refrain from fighting if fighting were prescribed for you?’ They said: ‘How could we refuse to fight in allah’s cause?’”

And he said this was why "Killing is prescribed by allah".

But if you look at the whole verse, it is actually refering to Moses and the Jews, it has nothing to do with killing in the name of Allah. Actual verse:

2:246 "Have you not thought about the group of the Children of Israel after (the time of) Musâ (Moses)?
When they said to a Prophet of theirs, "Appoint for us a king and we will fight in Allâh's Way." He
said, "Would you then refrain from fighting, if fighting was prescribed for you?" They said, "Why
should we not fight in Allâh's Way while we have been driven out of our homes and our children
(families have been taken as captives)?" But when fighting was ordered for them, they turned away,
all except a few of them. And Allâh is All-Aware of the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers)."

A warning to everyone not to outrightly trust people who claim Islam is a religion of violence and quote the Quran out of context. Look up the quotes for yourself, or get a copy of the Quran.

**MasterAdnin** · March 26, 2006, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Guderian

I downloaded a copy the Quran myself, although mine's a different version (The Noble Quran in the English Language, A Summarized Version of At-Tabari, Al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir, with comments from Sahih Al-Bukhar, By Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali, Ph.D. Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan)

Haven't read it yet (it's huge), but I've noticed alot of people mis-quote and mis-interpret the Quran (in some cases on purpose). For example on another forum a guy quoted this excerpt:

qur’an 2:246 “He said: ‘Would you refrain from fighting if fighting were prescribed for you?’ They said: ‘How could we refuse to fight in allah’s cause?’”

And he said this was why "Killing is prescribed by allah".

But if you look at the whole verse, it is actually refering to Moses and the Jews, it has nothing to do with killing in the name of Allah. Actual verse:

2:246 "Have you not thought about the group of the Children of Israel after (the time of) Musâ (Moses)?
When they said to a Prophet of theirs, "Appoint for us a king and we will fight in Allâh's Way." He
said, "Would you then refrain from fighting, if fighting was prescribed for you?" They said, "Why
should we not fight in Allâh's Way while we have been driven out of our homes and our children
(families have been taken as captives)?" But when fighting was ordered for them, they turned away,
all except a few of them. And Allâh is All-Aware of the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers)."

A warning to everyone not to outrightly trust people who claim Islam is a religion of violence and quote the Quran out of context. Look up the quotes for yourself, or get a copy of the Quran.

If you're going to read the Quran, read two or three translations like me. Then you can compare the diferences in them and get the true meaning

.

Adnan

**~~Ummon~~** · March 26, 2006, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Guderian

I downloaded a copy the Quran myself, although mine's a different version (The Noble Quran in the English Language, A Summarized Version of At-Tabari, Al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir, with comments from Sahih Al-Bukhar, By Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali, Ph.D. Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan)

Haven't read it yet (it's huge), but I've noticed alot of people mis-quote and mis-interpret the Quran (in some cases on purpose). For example on another forum a guy quoted this excerpt:

qur’an 2:246 “He said: ‘Would you refrain from fighting if fighting were prescribed for you?’ They said: ‘How could we refuse to fight in allah’s cause?’”

And he said this was why "Killing is prescribed by allah".

But if you look at the whole verse, it is actually refering to Moses and the Jews, it has nothing to do with killing in the name of Allah. Actual verse:

2:246 "Have you not thought about the group of the Children of Israel after (the time of) Musâ (Moses)?
When they said to a Prophet of theirs, "Appoint for us a king and we will fight in Allâh's Way." He
said, "Would you then refrain from fighting, if fighting was prescribed for you?" They said, "Why
should we not fight in Allâh's Way while we have been driven out of our homes and our children
(families have been taken as captives)?" But when fighting was ordered for them, they turned away,
all except a few of them. And Allâh is All-Aware of the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers)."

A warning to everyone not to outrightly trust people who claim Islam is a religion of violence and quote the Quran out of context. Look up the quotes for yourself, or get a copy of the Quran.

I personally have quoted the whole passage in the past. Passage that is all but reassuring, if you ask my opinion. Dishonest post, if I may (in its biased assertion that the passage is non-violent, as the fact that holy war is ordered by religious authorities or God to a historical figure doesn't make it peaceful).

Furthermore, I notice the flowering of threads on the positive virtues of Islam. :wink:

**Kino** · March 25, 2006, 10:54 PM

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**Guderian** · March 26, 2006, 12:10 AM

Thanks for the advice MA, but I don't even have time to read this version let alone two or three...mabye in a few years time

**MasterAdnin** · March 26, 2006, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Guderian

Thanks for the advice MA, but I don't even have time to read this version let alone two or three...mabye in a few years time

I've read three. One in arabic,which is required, another in english, and one more in english to get the proper meaning. My friend has also memorized it.

Adnan

**ErikinWest** · March 26, 2006, 12:31 AM

Where can I download the Qu'ran from?

Erik

**MasterAdnin** · March 26, 2006, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by ErikinWest

Where can I download the Qu'ran from?

Erik

Probably one of the sites above.

Adnan

**Kino** · March 26, 2006, 12:34 AM

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**katsusand** · March 26, 2006, 12:54 AM

No , I got a better reader ...

one of the FAMOUS readers he is the imam of the harrm ((mecca))
He is one of my best readers you can download or listen to the quran here at his page
http://english.islamway.com/bindex.p...&recitor_id=28

you can find all the readers in here
http://english.islamway.com/sindex.p...=erecitorslist

If you want " text" quran tell me okay ?

and thank you Dzoavits for the links

Peace......

**katsusand** · March 26, 2006, 01:34 AM

Ummon-- Reading the quran without understanding it is REALLY a problem
enter one of the sites above ... type jihad in "search" there is a lot of articls about it ,, be sure to read it before posting again

Peace....

**~~Ummon~~** · March 26, 2006, 01:56 AM

Those articles portray only one aspect of the problem, on purpose. This, of course, is MHO. You might verify this throughout the world, nonetheless.

**katsusand** · March 26, 2006, 02:05 AM

Ummon-- Judging on the articles while you Didn't read them ?

Where can I download the Qu'ran from?

Erik

http://www.islamonline.net/surah/english/index.asp

here it is

you can have every surah and the translation and alot more
be sure to select the ayah when you want to see it ....

Peace...

**Richard the Lionheart** · March 26, 2006, 02:11 AM

I suggest that you guys keep this on topic. From the original post my impression is that this thread is supposed to serve as reference tool not another debate.

**katsusand** · March 26, 2006, 02:22 AM

thats right,, It IS a reference tool ... not a debate.. you can start another thread if you want debate ummon....

**AngryTitusPullo** · March 26, 2006, 04:37 AM

I'm looking for a 'Tafsir' site but couldn't find it properly on the net. Maybe I need to search for the english word. Anyone know what's the equivelent english word of Tafsir ? It's not just translation but more interpretation and analyze, isn't it ? Not quite sure.

**nadjib** · March 26, 2006, 04:41 AM

If you read carefully the Quran, you will find a lot of secrets. eg: Did the people know in 500 ac that the human born was provoked by ONE spermatozoid. or did they know that the foetus will pass by 4 steps to become a baby. or did they know that the earth turns, the nerves was in the skins, existance of frech water inside a salt one... etc and there are many many others... so don't tell me that this HUGE book was written by an ignorant man who don't know to read or write (yes mohamed (pbuh) was ignorant)