AI Victory Conditions

**MannyMcCoconut** · July 28, 2011, 09:21 AM

Does the AI have the same victory conditions as the human player? Is it aware of them?

I ask b/c in my current Crusader States campaign, the Byzantines(allies) have expanded to over 50 regions(double my empire) and I received a message warning of their impending domination. It would appear that the only victory condition they have not satisfied is the elimination of Sicily.

**Kabeloko** · July 28, 2011, 06:05 PM

hmm cant tell for sure, but i believe they can win the campaign with victory conditions...
never got this myself, only heard rumors about this...
anyway... stay sharp, and get ready to do some treacherou stuff...
gl mate

**Caesar Clivus** · July 28, 2011, 08:06 PM

Yes the AI has the same victory conditions and yes you will lose if they reach theirs before you reach yours.

**Hadrian I** · July 28, 2011, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

Yes the AI has the same victory conditions and yes you will lose if they reach theirs before you reach yours.

I thought as much, I also just thought the game would continue on, even if the AI had met it's victory conditions...

Well, war against the Roman Empire seems invertiable now.

**k/t** · July 28, 2011, 08:59 PM

The game will continue, just like it does if you win. All "winning" means is you get a message saying you've won.

**Kabeloko** · July 29, 2011, 11:02 PM

daaaammm just got that message....
the fatimids aint fighting with the mongols, and conquered the whole middle east, and is starting to get into europe...
and i only got 20 regions... TT

**TheBard** · July 30, 2011, 11:49 AM

My ally, the Fatimids "won" my Portugal AAR, but I was able to continue playing.

I don't think the AI is fully aware of all the victory conditions. For example, Norway (my enemy) was close to winning that same AAR, as they had 45+ territories. The only thing remaining for them was to take the Scottish Highlands and eliminate Scotland. Despite this, I never saw them make any attempt at invading Scotland or even blockading Scottish ports. For that reason, it's my assumption that AI factions requiring them to complete naval invasions will almost never be completed.

**Bill Overbeck** · July 30, 2011, 12:39 PM

I think the AI has to know some of yours. When playing as the Romans, Venice and Sicily tend to be very aggressive towards me, but I notice when I'm not playing as them, they tend to not do an all out blitz on the AL controlled Romans.

The only way I stay out of a war with them at the start of the game is to quickly start paying them off, and keep their relations at Good or better.

**k/t** · July 30, 2011, 01:38 PM

Supposedly that's because the AI hates the player no matter what. It doesn't know your goals. It doesn't know its own goals. It just hates you.

**Bill Overbeck** · July 30, 2011, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by k/t

Supposedly that's because the AI hates the player no matter what. It doesn't know your goals. It doesn't know its own goals. It just hates you.

That would actually explain a lot of past games for me...for example me having a totally secure border, is attacked by the faction bordering me, even though it would have been better for them to attack the other faction.