Poseur Metal

A place to put all Nu Metal, Alt Metal, and Metalcore/Deathcore.

All of those are still metal, and I like alot of it. That doesn't make it 'poseur' or even make me a 'poseur' (my last gig was Katatonia and I was wearing chinos, deck shoes and a polo shirt)

I hate the whole 'dress code' for metal gigs. Everyone has to wear black... isn't metal meant to be about non-conformity? Next metal gig I go to I'm wearing tie-die. And corpse-paint.

Metal about non-conformity?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAA

Doesn't nearly every genre claim that?

Originally Posted by Manco

Metal about non-conformity?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAA

Doesn't nearly every genre claim that?

Pretty much.
If you want to be about non-conformity, don't listen to music period.

Really, Peasants?

Hey, I'm just saying what people say. I don't listen to metal to be non-conformist or anything. My post was about how silly it is..

Never understood the elitism within metal, seems to be one of the most conservative genre's around when it comes to innovation, yet as soon as anyone tinkers with the formula it's derided as faux-metal.

Originally Posted by Their Law

Never understood the elitism within metal, seems to be one of the most conservative genre's around when it comes to innovation, yet as soon as anyone tinkers with the formula it's derided as faux-metal.

We allow no progress. All blasphemers shall be hunted down.

Originally Posted by René Artois

Hey metal purists, I love Bring Me The Horizon.

HERESY

Hey metal purists, I love Bring Me The Horizon.

Originally Posted by René Artois

Hey metal purists, I love Bring Me The Horizon.

Bah narrow minded traditionalists. I love true metal innovators such as Emmure and Brokencyde.

Yeah, artists that push the boundaries are the best, like Rebecca Black Metal.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Although that doesn't mean that a band that changes things up can't be good.

Originally Posted by Concillius

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Although that doesn't mean that a band that changes things up can't be good.

I'd argue that metal as a genre is broken at present.

How so?

Originally Posted by Concillius

How so?

Content to wallow in the past and parodying their peers rather than building upon past achievements. But then i tend to value innovation in music which metal today generally lacks. Though that's by no means a blanket statement and shouldn't be construed as metal being 'bad' as a genre..

Hmm - problem is that there are those people saying that only that 80´s stuff is real metal. There were already many subgenres and if someone is doing something new it doesn´t fit and there has to be another subgenre. So those traditionalists say this isn´t metal any more. But it´s not? Just a question of definition i guess.
Metal is not innovative at all? Which genre stands for most innovation? Pop-Music? Electro-Music? Jazz with it´s Standards? What´s innovation? A mixture of some of the "old" genres or doing something "new" which sounds like the 60´s, 70´s or perhaps the 20´s?

Originally Posted by Fred Putz

Metal is not innovative at all? Which genre stands for most innovation? Pop-Music? Electro-Music? Jazz with it´s Standards? What´s innovation? A mixture of some of the "old" genres or doing something "new" which sounds like the 60´s, 70´s or perhaps the 20´s?

Innovation is self explanatory as a term, but no genre has a monopoly on it, but metal as a genre seems to actively dissuade innovation within it ranks.

Originally Posted by Their Law

Innovation is self explanatory as a term...

Sure - just wanted to know what You think what innovative music is.

Of course it is somewhat hard to be innovative if Your "fanbase" won´t accept the work and everyone else won´t even listen to that kind of music. I guess it´s not a matter of the genre at all.
If You buy a record of a certain genre You are expecting a certain kind of music. If You buy just good - perhaps innovative - music (...Your taste) the genre doesn´t matter. Perhaps the peer pressure inside the metal genre is a bit higher - because some people judge You because of the music You are listening to. Just don´t care...

chernov will love this one