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    (CNN) -- As Mark Anthony Stroman faces execution Wednesday for the killing of an Indian man in revenge for the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, one of the jurors who sentenced him to death and one of his surviving victims are among those calling on Texas officials to spare his life.
    Stroman, 41, made national headlines after he fatally shot Vasudev Patel during a shooting rampage after the 9/11 attacks. An admitted white supremacist, Stroman targeted those he believed were Middle Eastern in revenge for the attacks. A Pakistani man, Waqar Hasan, was also murdered, and a Bangladeshi man, Rais Bhuiyan, was seriously wounded.
    "I cannot tell you that I am an innocent man. I am not asking you to feel sorry for me, and I won't hide the truth," Stroman told CNN in a recent interview.
    "I am a human being and made a terrible mistake out of love, grief and anger, and believe me, I am paying for it every single minute of the day."
    The Supreme Court denied a stay of execution for Stroman last month. His supporters are urging the governor and the state Board of Pardons and Parole to grant clemency. He also has another request pending before the U.S. Supreme Court to stay the execution. Barring a last-minute reprieve, he is set to die at 6 p.m. (7 p.m. ET).
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    Prosecutors say that just days after the attacks on New York, Washington and Pennsylvania a decade ago, Stroman began carefully plotting revenge. At the time, he was free on bail for previous crimes.
    On September 15, 2001, Stroman shot Hasan in the head while the man was grilling hamburgers in his convenience store. The 46-year-old Pakistani native had moved to the Dallas area that year to start a new life with his family.
    Six days later, Stroman shot Bhuiyan in the face while he manned the counter at a gas station. Bhuiyan survived, but was left blind in one eye.
    Then, on October 4, Stroman attempted to rob the Mesquite, Texas, gas station operated by Patel. Surveillance tapes showed the suspect waving a .44-caliber chrome-plated pistol at the clerk and demanding, "Open the register or I'll kill you." The 49-year-old Patel, a Hindu, tried to reach for his gun hidden under the counter, but Stroman shot the man in the chest. He left without taking any cash and was arrested the next day.
    It was for that crime that Stroman was prosecuted, convicted and sentenced to death. During the sentencing phase, he made an obscene hand gesture to Hasan's relatives.
    Stroman claimed his sister was on a top floor of the World Trade Center's North Tower when it and the adjacent South Tower collapsed after airliners were deliberately crashed into the buildings. But that claim was never substantiated during his murder trial and was not raised by his appellate attorney.
    In a recent posting on his prison blog, Stroman says the 9/11 attacks sparked something inside him.
    "Let's just say that I could not think clearly anymore and I am sorry to say I made innocent people pay for my rage, anger, grief and loss," he wrote.
    Citing his own statements to fellow inmates, a federal appeals court, in denying his claims, concluded that Stroman believed that the U.S. government "hadn't done their job, so he was going to do it for them" by retaliating.
    The man told his lawyers he once belonged to the Aryan Brotherhood, a white supremacist prison gang, and has a long criminal history of burglary, armed robbery and theft.
    Of the 19 9/11 hijackers, 15 were from Saudi Arabia, two were from the United Arab Emirates, one was Lebanese and one was Egyptian, according to federal authorities.
    Although he testified against his attacker, Bhuiyan has campaigned against Stroman's execution. A devout Muslim who came to the United States to pursue his education, Bhuiyan was working an extra job a decade ago and was about to be married.
    He said a large "angry" man wearing a bandanna, sunglasses and a baseball cap approached him in the store and asked, "Where are you from?" Confused, Bhuiyan asked, "Excuse me?" Immediately afterward, he remembered being shot, "the sensation of a million bees stinging my face, and then heard an explosion."
    But Bhuiyan has created a website, worldwithouthate.org, to urge Texas to spare Stroman's life. He also filed a "friend of the court" brief last week in the 5th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, supporting Stroman's requested stay of execution.
    "I -- and here I act as a spokesperson for the other victims' families as well -- have been denied our proper voice in the proceedings," Bhuiyan said in the court documents. "We do not wish to see Mark Stroman executed for his crimes. For myself, it is clear that nothing would cause more devastation and pain to the life I struggled to rebuild after the attack than for Mark Stroman to be killed."
    "In order to live in a better and peaceful world, we need to break the cycle of hate and violence. I believe forgiveness is the best policy, which helps to break this cycle," Bhuiyan said last week, calling himself a victim of a hate crime. "I forgave Mark Stroman many years ago. I believe he was ignorant and not capable of distinguishing between right and wrong. Otherwise he wouldn't have done what he did."
    He said he would like to meet with Stroman before it's too late.
    "His attorney gave him the message that one of your victims is running this campaign to save your life," he said. "He was reduced to tears. He couldn't believe one of his victims would come forward and try to save his life."
    In addition, juror Jenifer Sheehan is asking Texas Gov. Rick Perry to spare Stroman's life, according to the British anti-death penalty group Reprieve.
    "When I walked into that courtroom to serve as a juror, I believed in the death penalty, but as time has passed I have come to deeply regret my decision to sentence Mark to death," Sheehan said in a statement released by Reprieve. She said she was "misled" by prosecutors into believing that Patel's death was a capital crime, but she knows "now that Mark did not go into the gas station to rob Mr. Patel. ... His crime did not warrant the death penalty."
    She said if she had known that Bhuiyan and other victims did not want Stroman executed, she would not have voted for him to receive the death penalty. "I made the wrong decision," she said.
    Although he now claims remorse for his actions, Stroman was in a different mood a year after the killings.
    Writing on his blog, he said, "This was not a crime of hate but an act of Passion and Patriotism, an act of country and commitment, an act of retribution and recompense. The was not done during Peace time but at War time. I, Mark Anthony Stroman, felt a need to exact some measure of equality and fairness for the thousands of victims of September 11th, 2001."
    Stroman says his biggest regret is leaving his four children behind and says that being a capital inmate is a "nightmare come to life." Prisoner No. 999-409 also claims to be a changed man.
    "I have destroyed my victims' families as well as my own," Stroman wrote. "Out of pure anger and stupidity I did some things to some men from Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia. And now I sit on death row awaiting execution. And by no means am I proud of what I have done."
    After his arrest, Stroman bragged that he had committed other, similar attacks on men he thought were Muslim, for which he was suspected but never charged. His writings appear to reference one such attack, on a Saudi Arabian victim.
    He killed anyone that looked muslim, even Indians/Bengali, or Arabs. He sticked up the middle finger at the victims families, and said he had no remorse.

    Now he wants to be pardoned for execution. Yeah right.


    He is dead as of now. Good riddance.

    he is set to die at 6 p.m. (7 p.m. ET). 7/20/11

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    Still cant figure out why he keeps saying he is innocent.

    The evidence was apparently captured on tape so I dont doubt his conviction, just his mindset and while I am against the dealth penalty because it doesnt prevent anything.

    I am sick with this American cultural tendency to punish criminals instead of finding out why they turn to a path of crime and help them there. Perhaps an unstable family, maybe growing up without anything to live on turn them to the gangs and a life of crime or bad paths or whatever the happen we instead punish them for a couple years then throw them back out with maybe 600 dollars to make a new start. Yay 600 dollars to start their new life. Opps they end up homeless and they back to ing crime. Great job states with high crime numbers. Try improving your schools and your state welfare systems as well as the housing so problems like this dont arise.

    Anyway this isnt political unless you present something about the state having second doubts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    Still cant figure out why he keeps saying he is innocent.

    The evidence was apparently captured on tape so I dont doubt his conviction, just his mindset and while I am against the dealth penalty because it doesnt prevent anything.

    I am sick with this American cultural tendency to punish criminals instead of finding out why they turn to a path of crime and help them there. Perhaps an unstable family, maybe growing up without anything to live on turn them to the gangs and a life of crime or bad paths or whatever the happen we instead punish them for a couple years then throw them back out with maybe 600 dollars to make a new start. Yay 600 dollars to start their new life. Opps they end up homeless and they back to ing crime. Great job states with high crime numbers. Try improving your schools and your state welfare systems as well as the housing so problems like this dont arise.

    Anyway this isnt political unless you present something about the state having second doubts.
    He was a white supremacist admittedly, and hated other-races ofcourse, note the middle-finger/no remorse shown to the victims family. I believe he was putting up an act of "I am sorry for what I did" so he doesn't get executed. He's executed literally moments ago.

    The State barred any requests from the man for review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    I am sick with this American cultural tendency to punish criminals instead of finding out why they turn to a path of crime and help them there. Perhaps an unstable family, maybe growing up without anything to live on turn them to the gangs and a life of crime or bad paths or whatever the happen we instead punish them for a couple years then throw them back out with maybe 600 dollars to make a new start. Yay 600 dollars to start their new life. Opps they end up homeless and they back to ing crime. Great job states with high crime numbers. Try improving your schools and your state welfare systems as well as the housing so problems like this dont arise.
    Oh of course because that isn't explored at all. It's not like there are thousands and thousands of people that get degrees in criminal psychology or try to understand why people commit violent acts and become criminal. It's not like there are organizations in the US for that or anything. Oh no, we're just a bunch of barbarous people that kill everyone and anyone for any misstep.

    You might be tired of that, but I'm tired of bleeding hearts that complain about us punishing people after they've committed not just one crime, but multiple crimes. Your mindset is the same reason they now have a 'psychological condition' for every damn thing that's wrong with a person and why there is a tons of medication for every little damn thing out there.

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    Hes an idiot.
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    Killing people that had nothing to do with anything? That's like me going out of my flat and shooting a German because his ethic country bombed my country 70 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rifleman View Post
    Killing people that had nothing to do with anything? That's like me going out of my flat and shooting a German because his ethic country bombed my country 70 years ago.
    Yes everyone knows he is an idiot that has been established.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rifleman View Post
    Fine, but back to the OP.

    Killing people that had nothing to do with anything? That's like me going out of my flat and shooting a German because his ethic country bombed my country 70 years ago.

    Actually since none of the men killed were from the Middle East nor remotley related to any terrorist cell its more similar to shotting somone from Uganda because of what the Germans did

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    " "I cannot tell you that I am an innocent man. I am not asking you to feel sorry for me, and I won't hide the truth, I am a human being and made a terrible mistake out of love, grief and anger, and believe me, I am paying for it every single minute of the day.
    -Mark Anthony Stroman

    He admitted he made a mistake by killing these people, and has accepted responsibility for his actions. Thus, he knows the detriments of his erred actions; and will whole-heartily accept the consequences.

    This statement of remorse should not be taken as an excuse to let him free, but as a reminder that humans make mistakes and can find redemption within their hearts. He still must suffer the consequences for committing these atrocities, but it is comforting to know that he still is a person that realizes he's done wrong and can find redemption within himself and with society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw2xboxplayer View Post
    -Mark Anthony Stroman

    He admitted he made a mistake by killing these people, and has accepted responsibility for his actions. Thus, he knows the detriments of his erred actions; and will whole-heartily accept the consequences.

    This statement of remorse should not be taken as an excuse to let him free, but as a reminder that humans make mistakes and can find redemption within their hearts. He still must suffer the consequences for committing these atrocities, but it is comforting to know that he still is a person that realizes he's done wrong and can find redemption within himself and with society.
    What? He couldn't say that for almost 10 years? When he got arrested, he middle fingered the victims family, and said he didn't care about any of them. However he magically comes up and asks remorse a couple of days before his execution date? I totally buy this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana Jelly View Post
    What? He couldn't say that for almost 10 years? When he got arrested, he middle fingered the victims family, and said he didn't care about any of them. However he magically comes up and asks remorse a couple of days before his execution date? I totally buy this...
    It is reasonable to think that maybe he has changed and now feels remorse for it, but of course that doesn't mean the punishment should be stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana Jelly View Post
    What? He couldn't say that for almost 10 years? When he got arrested, he middle fingered the victims family, and said he didn't care about any of them. However he magically comes up and asks remorse a couple of days before his execution date? I totally buy this...
    He is still going to die either way, I prefer to look upon the condemned with pity. It doesn't hurt to look for a man's redeeming qualities before he is sent out to die. Did he commit horrible atrocities? Yes. Will he be punished for his actions? Yes. However, this does not make the man any less human than you or I. It is at least worth a mention that he went out of his way to admit he made a mistake, sincerely or otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw2xboxplayer View Post
    -Mark Anthony Stroman

    He admitted he made a mistake by killing these people, and has accepted responsibility for his actions. Thus, he knows the detriments of his erred actions; and will whole-heartily accept the consequences.

    This statement of remorse should not be taken as an excuse to let him free, but as a reminder that humans make mistakes and can find redemption within their hearts. He still must suffer the consequences for committing these atrocities, but it is comforting to know that he still is a person that realizes he's done wrong and can find redemption within himself and with society.
    WHy should he be kept imprisoned if he is no longer a threat to society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    WHy should he be kept imprisoned if he is no longer a threat to society?
    He's not being imprisoned anymore. His life is what he owed, and they got that from him. In cases such as this I am all for the death penalty. There is motive, evidence, and cause of death beyond the shadow of a doubt. Whether he found peace or not is irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    WHy should he be kept imprisoned if he is no longer a threat to society?
    Just because one is remorseful for his actions does not justify them. He must still face the consequences for killing innocents.

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    Good, hopefully Major Nidal Hasan will follow him but with a firing squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by O.Chrysostomos View Post
    Good, hopefully Major Nidal Hasan will follow him but with a firing squad.
    &and what does that have to do with the current subject

    post this on the thread dedicated to hasan

    why post this here?

    oh yeah, he's got an arabic name, or "musilm" sounding name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
    &and what does that have to do with the current subject

    post this on the thread dedicated to hasan

    why post this here?

    oh yeah, he's got an arabic name, or "musilm" sounding name!
    I don't know, maybe read the title and the OP and we can discover its relevance together?

    He isn't a "muslim" he's a Muslim; he shouted Allahu Akbar as he mowed down unarmed soldiers. I don't think a Maronite would put Soldier of Allah on their business cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by O.Chrysostomos View Post
    I don't know, maybe read the title and the OP and we can discover its relevance together?

    He isn't a "muslim" he's a Muslim; he shouted Allahu Akbar as he mowed down unarmed soldiers. I don't think a Maronite would put Soldier of Allah on their business cards.
    i don't get what you're trying to imply here
    still has nothing to do with the subject at hand, even after reading the title and the op

    Quote Originally Posted by Shneckie View Post
    I think our resident nazi, Notorious GSC is confused. The only people in the middle east that Hitler considered Aryans were the Persians, a completely different people to Arabs and Turks.
    how are turks related to arabs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
    i don't get what you're trying to imply here
    still has nothing to do with the subject at hand, even after reading the title and the op



    how are turks related to arabs
    Erm.. what?

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