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    Default Brega has fallen in the rebel hands!

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    Misrata, Libya (Reuters) - Libyan rebels said Monday it took control of the area around the oil port of Brega, in the east, after a prolonged struggle with the forces of Muammar Gaddafi.
    Brega is encircled, said the spokesman of the rebels, Chamsiddine Abdoulmolah. But its streets are littered with mines, preventing the fighters to control the whole sector.
    "The battalion chief (forces Gaddafi) retired in Ras Lanouf" west of Brega said Abdoulmolah. "The major oil installations are still mined and the remaining forces Gaddafi still there. It will be difficult to clean up without damaging the facilities themselves," he added.
    More than 30 soldiers in total were killed in clashes and bombings of the weekend.
    The Libyan news agency Jana said Monday that 19 soldiers were killed in NATO raids in the area of ​​Brega. The insurgents, 10 fighters have died and 175 were injured Saturday and two others died and 120 were wounded Sunday, said a spokesman for the rebels.
    The rebels are moving now to Bicher Oukaïlah and, on the road to Ras Lanouf, added the spokesman who expects to fight in this area during the day or Tuesday.
    The government in Tripoli did not mention fighting in the city and it was impossible to independently verify the claims of the rebels.
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    Decision-Brega, strategic oil site 750 km east of the capital Tripoli, represent the largest rebel advance in eastern campaign for several weeks.
    It could pave the way for an increase to the west after months of stalemate on the eastern front and provide an outlet to sell the production of oil fields under their control, when it resumes.
    Brega has changed hands several times since the war began five months ago but the rebels say this time it is a turning point. The NATO air strikes, which targeted vehicles and rocket launchers of the regular army near Brega, contributed to the victory of suspected rebels in the area.
    On the Western Front, in the mountains of Jebel Nefoussa southwest of Tripoli, intense exchanges of gunfire took place Sunday in the village of Al Kaoualich, told Reuters an insurgent responsible for a point on-site inspection.
    The rebels have made progress in this area in recent times despite the resistance of the troops Gaddafi.
    NATO said its bombing near a radar antenna used for military purposes at the airport in Tripoli.
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    The slow progress of the insurgents has led to tensions within NATO, some countries advocating for a negotiated a conflict that lasted only a few weeks. The first air strikes of coalition back to March 31.
    The NATO countries and the Arab powers members of the Contact Group on Libya agreed Friday National Transitional Council (CNT) set up by the insurgents as the only representative body of the Libyan people.
    Twenty countries, including France, Britain and Italy, already saw the CNT as the only representative of the Libyan people.
    Russia said Monday that diplomatic recognition was tantamount to taking sides in the conflict.
    "Those who proclaim (the recognition of the CNT) begin on the side of a political force in the civil war," said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.
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    Good. Hopefully Gaddafi is soon toppled and this war ends.

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    Default Re: Brega has fallen in the rebel hands!

    This is where Brega is:
    http://maps.google.nl/maps?q=marsa+a...546875&t=h&z=8

    Compared to the location of Benghazi, it doesn't seem like the rebels are really making progress at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    This is where Brega is:
    http://maps.google.nl/maps?q=marsa+a...546875&t=h&z=8

    Compared to the location of Benghazi, it doesn't seem like the rebels are really making progress at all.
    For the western front, Rebels have repulsed the loyalist from Misrata and conquering all the villages near Tripoli to encircle the Kaddafi force.
    The conquest of Brega was the first significant advance on the eastern front since many months.

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    Good to see some progress being made.

    Best case scenario this is one more step on the road to Tripoli and Gaddafi's demise (Although I feel thats a bit over optimistic). Worst case its another card the TNC can play at the negotiating table.
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    Good news.

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    Default Re: Brega has fallen in the rebel hands!

    I wonder how many NATO strikes it took for the rebels to get this far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw2xboxplayer View Post
    I wonder how many NATO strikes it took for the rebels to get this far.
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    Now to Tripoli, awaiting to see the head of Gheddafi on a pike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Principe Alessandro View Post
    Now to Tripoli, awaiting to see the head of Gheddafi on a pike.
    he won't he will be somewhere in west Africa by the time the rebels got to Tripoli as well as his millions and also if he is still there he will be stand trial and the case will last years just to count all his crimes against humanity as well as years to debate whether he deserves it or not and also head on a pike is a french tradition they won't allow others to use this method to execute their leaders anyway, he may be at least to be hanged just like Saddam Hussein and video tape the whole scene and sell it to make money to reconstruct the war-torn country
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    Brega has been taken and lost by both sides multiple times during the Civil War. Lets just hope they hold it.
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    Wait, if Tripoli is to the WEST of Misrata, and the rebels control Misrata, why did they fight in Brega, which is EAST to Misrata?
    Wouldn't they be better off just heading for Tripoli? I mean, they already have Misrata in their hands, right? They can stage the attacks from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    Wait, if Tripoli is to the WEST of Misrata, and the rebels control Misrata, why did they fight in Brega, which is EAST to Misrata?
    Wouldn't they be better off just heading for Tripoli? I mean, they already have Misrata in their hands, right? They can stage the attacks from there.
    They might not have manpower/ammo/balls to go for Tripoli yet, Brega might have supplies as well (or maybe they thought that if they didn't take Brega, they could have been flanked from there).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    Wait, if Tripoli is to the WEST of Misrata, and the rebels control Misrata, why did they fight in Brega, which is EAST to Misrata?
    Wouldn't they be better off just heading for Tripoli? I mean, they already have Misrata in their hands, right? They can stage the attacks from there.
    From the article:
    Brega, strategic oil site 750 km east of the capital Tripoli, represent the largest rebel advance in eastern campaign for several weeks.
    It could pave the way for an increase to the west after months of stalemate on the eastern front and provide an outlet to sell the production of oil fields under their control, when it resumes.
    Berga is the site of a major oil terminal, and is essential to the economy for post-war Libya. It also a place where the rebels can re-supply before pushing further Westward into Qaddafi-controlled territory.

    Here's a semi-relevant map of the critical location/territories of the current conflict. I'm not sure when it was last updated, but it should still be useful for getting an outlook on the conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    Wait, if Tripoli is to the WEST of Misrata, and the rebels control Misrata, why did they fight in Brega, which is EAST to Misrata?
    Wouldn't they be better off just heading for Tripoli? I mean, they already have Misrata in their hands, right? They can stage the attacks from there.
    Different, unconnected fronts. The rebels at Misrata need most of their resources to prevent Misrata from getting besieged so they can't do that much outside that region. They can only hold out and occupy as many loyalist forces as possible without getting squashed. Brega is probably attacked by rebels from Benghazi who face a different front and essentially have to root out the whole coast line if they ever want to relieve Misrata and connect those areas. Which is probably the primary objective loyalist forces try to prevent. At the same time the guys at Benghazi are pretty comfortable because they kind of control what they consider their primary homeland anyway. They don't have such a big reason to rush it.

    This is not civilization where you can simply shuffle about units. Gaddafi probably would love it if all the rebels would gather in a pocket like Misrata. Easier to starve and contain (not that the rebels have the logistics for that anyway).
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    Default Re: Brega has fallen in the rebel hands!

    Wait, if Tripoli is to the WEST of Misrata, and the rebels control Misrata, why did they fight in Brega, which is EAST to Misrata?
    Wouldn't they be better off just heading for Tripoli? I mean, they already have Misrata in their hands, right? They can stage the attacks from there.
    I think because they dont have the manpower nor the resorces to launch a succesfull attack on the capital even with NATO support.If they can hold Brega and continue going eastward they migth have more oil wells to get resorces IMO. I have to say good for the rebels on this,hope they hold this and continue the figth so that the war can end soon.

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    Time is on the rebels side.

    Gaddaffi's forces presumably do not have an external source for funds, munitions and supplies. The Rebels, though poorly equiped and poorly organized, do have international sources for these things. Logistics will eventually win out, and the Gaddaffi regime will have to go one way or another.

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    What do people think will happen when the rebels reach Tripoli by the way? Clearly they won't be able to take it given that they have struggled to take much less important places, and Tripoli has such a large population, meaning they must take it to win.
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    Default Re: Brega has fallen in the rebel hands!

    Bah, NATO isn't doing anything but hit the occasional convoy or base and say "Ooo look, NTC, can't say we didn't help."

    I do hope the NTC pushes forward more. I hope they don't slip up at Sirte like last time.

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    Thanks xboxPlayer for making things clear
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