no ETA for this mod or anything?
Tiro
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no ETA for this mod or anything?
EoR Modeller
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Nothing specific so far, but we hope to finish it before this Easter or summer the Danube Limes campaign.Originally Posted by hameem123
Tiro
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is this mod dead or is it going to continue after some time..?
Campidoctor
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Jesus Christ, there was a preview less than a month ago- what more do you want?!
Laetus
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@mod makers
Any circassian tribes or settlements will be in the mod? even if the tribes wasn't added, circassians(adiges) must be in the mod such a detailed one. They have lived in North Caucasus since 6000 BC
tribes of north caucasus: adiges=circassians
western circassians(Abadzeh - Bzhedugh - Yegerukay - Zhaney - Memheg
Natuhay - Temirgoy - Ubyh - Shabsug - Hatukay) between kuban river and crimea
eastern circassians ( principality of kabarda(kabardins)) east of kuban river
I hope you show signs of the presence of this ancient civilization at least a castle or town.
Campidoctor
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If you can link me to some decent information on them (ie, not Wikipedia, and not nationalistic webpages) I'd be very happy to look into the matter!
Ex Oriente Lux
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Hey guys, what's the update on the Danube Limes campaign?
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EoR Modeller
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We almost finished with the unit modelling. After that, only some other small issues and details. We're on a very good point.
Semisalis
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Unfortunately not, the old Greco-roman religion at this point is very much dying and no amount of preaching is going to bring it back.
Miles
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But there will be Christian priests though right? If so do you guys plan on using a more Eastern/Byzantine model for the priest? You guys should use a new model for the priests, look at some Orthodox icons of saints like St Basil and St Gregory, they actually offer quite accurate representations for icons of what pre-schism priest and bishop vestments looked like during the first few centuries of Christianity: simple vestments and robes with cross patterns and a shawl that crosses over the neck. It would be very awesome to have a priest model that looks like St Basil/St Gregory the Great. What is your disposition on that?
Miles
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Is that a yes?
EoR Modeller
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We focus actually on the military units. We'll see...
Miles
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Well if you look at Rusichi total war, which has by far the best military units and models, they still managed to focus on the religions. They totally remodeled the Orthodox priests to look like Russian priests with traditional Russian vestments, and even managed to add little monasteries and new religious buildings, etc. Plus, clearly EoR is focusing on religion more than other mods, with its religious diversity, so I would think that EoR would have done the same if not more, adding monasteries and new priests models. It also always disturbed me in vanilla MTW that on the battle map in cities and stuff, models of Orthodox churches or monasteries or anything remotely Byzantine-esque could not be found. Will EoR be the hero?
Vicarius
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Gameplay wise it would be pretty nice to have priests. I wonder what it's like with a mass priest army converting everybody within turns.... Good thing they got capped in S2TW.
Though no priests in EoR is fine due it being quite game breaking to be able to field hordes of them. I prefer a slow assimilation through the use of neighboring regions gameplay wise and authenticity wise...
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Miles
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No no, I am pretty sure EoR will have priests for Christian religions. He was saying "maybe so" to my idea of creating a NEW model to the priests. For instance, Rusichi total war looked freakin awesome if you played it. They totally remodeled the Orthodox priests for the Russian factions, and made them look realistic. Priests looked more like monks, and bishops looked like Russian Orthodox bishops with traditional Russian vestments, and it was very attractive.Gameplay wise it would be pretty nice to have priests. I wonder what it's like with a mass priest army converting everybody within turns.... Good thing they got capped in S2TW.
Though no priests in EoR is fine due it being quite game breaking to be able to field hordes of them. I prefer a slow assimilation through the use of neighboring regions gameplay wise and authenticity wise...
Miles
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And I also might add that hordes of priests isn't too unhistorical. When the Byzantines mass converted the slavs, and later the Kiev-Rus', they indeed had a horde of priests mass converting and baptizing all of Vladimir I's serfs, peasants, nobility. Plus, I like having the option of hording priests, I like to play around with that in the game. Still though, the Byzantines are certainly not foreign to mass converting.Gameplay wise it would be pretty nice to have priests. I wonder what it's like with a mass priest army converting everybody within turns.... Good thing they got capped in S2TW.
Though no priests in EoR is fine due it being quite game breaking to be able to field hordes of them. I prefer a slow assimilation through the use of neighboring regions gameplay wise and authenticity wise...
Sampsis
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With the very big note that the only mass conversions happened when the leader of the state decided to convert and made Christianity the official religion of his state. The situation in M2TW, on the other hand, is usually quite different - hordes of priests preaching in hostile lands, for decades on and on.
Btw, Cyril and Methodius didn't convert anybody - the Moravians were already Christian when they arrived (well, ok, Methodios did convert some Vistulan and Czech tribes later on).
Actually, the Pagan past is still relatively strong even today, particularly in the "Christian" religious rituals of the commoners.
Miles
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When i say paganism, im referring to ancient slavic animism, zoarastrianism, Greco-Roman paganism, etc, stuff that would be in EoR. Priests that would "preach" these religions would simply be out of place. There simply wasnt much of a zeal for it during this time period.
Miles
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Ah but when Vladimir changed the state religion, there were hordes of priests mass baptising the Rus' people. Plus, how someone plays with their religious agents is their business. I like to have a Priest in a every province to
maintain the religion. Wherever theres a church, theres a priest.
Ex Oriente Lux
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Hum, don't take my word for it but I highly doubt that the DL campaign will have priests. Think about it as you would Napoleon Total War, the time frame for Maurikios' Balkans Campaigns (more or less 10 years) is not nearly enough time to convert entire civilizations to Christianity. Take note that in many cases, it was not until the late 19th, early 20th centuries that political and religious authorities finally managed to pull the Slavs "completely" away from various pre-Christian aspects of their civilization. Even then, they survive until this present day in the forms of saints, fairy tales, folklore, etc.
In any regard, it might not be a bad idea to implement into the main Justinian era campaign, but the game is full of various religions. We'd need to find people who could also create priests/shamans/false teachers etc for the various Turkic, Iranian, Slavic, and Arab factions.
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