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    Is it because God is inherantly selfish? Because God possesses the vice that is repeatedly instilled in us by the bible? Because God created man, we are expected to serve and praise him. But unless God is selfish, he wouldn't care whether we repaid him with our eternal praise and gratitude. In the bible it is preached that we should give without expecting something in return. But why does God give us life then expect our eternal praise in return? Seems rather hypocrytical.

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    Does he really want/need us to praise him? Where in the Bible does it say that?
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    He doesn't need us to praise Him. He could exist with or without us, but because he is Good, he granted us life. We are expected to worship Him because he gave us all we have, but he doesn't need it. ( The bible doesn't say anything about God needing praise) It is more like a thank you and more importantly to make sure we keep our existance in perspective. To me it is more to keep us in check with who and what we are, not for Him. It actually benefits us.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Clibby
    He doesn't need us to praise Him. He could exist with or without us, but because he is Good, he granted us life. We are expected to worship Him because he gave us all we have, but he doesn't need it. ( The bible doesn't say anything about God needing praise) It is more like a thank you and more importantly to make sure we keep our existance in perspective. To me it is more to keep us in check with who and what we are, not for Him. It actually benefits us.
    Well said! I agree completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dueteronomy 8:10
    When you have eaten and are satisfied, praise the LORD your God for the good land he has given you.
    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Chronicles 16:25
    For great is the LORD and most worthy of praise; he is to be feared above all gods.
    Quote Originally Posted by Psalm 150:1
    Praise the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joel 2:26-27
    You will have plenty to eat, until you are full,
    and you will praise the name of the LORD your God,
    who has worked wonders for you;
    never again will my people be shamed.

    Then you will know that I am in Israel,
    that I am the LORD your God,
    and that there is no other;
    never again will my people be shamed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Revelation 19:5
    Then a voice came from the throne, saying: "Praise our God, all you his servants, you who fear him, both small and great!"
    Just to name a few

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    We don't have to. We just do because we are so thankful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkKnight
    Just to name a few
    Its all part of being the ideal. You "should" be motivated to act in certain ways if God is truly transforming your outlook. If that happens, you do it because you want to. Also, if you look closely, you'll see that God himself isn't demanding praise, its all his followers telling people to praise him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdh
    Its all part of being the ideal. You "should" be motivated to act in certain ways if God is truly transforming your outlook. If that happens, you do it because you want to. Also, if you look closely, you'll see that God himself isn't demanding praise, its all his followers telling people to praise him.
    But the people who wrote the bible were divinely guided by the holy spirit and the bible is the direct will of God (according to Missouri Synod Lutheranism which I was raised). And it is quoted in my above post that God demands you praise him in the bible. And btw when I was looking for quotes I intentionally looked for the ones where it wasn't the followers praising God but God saying that we should praise him.

    I think its part of being what God sees as good. You can't be good without praising God, because then you would be too proud or arrogant, you know?

    The praising is not cause by the fact that God wants praise, but that God wants you to be Good.
    If you can't be good without praising God, and God wants you to be good, then using the transitive property God wants you to praise him. If A=B and B=C then A=C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkKnight
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    Just to name a few
    This might be a shock: the bible was written by man, not by God. Lord Saradain is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkKnight
    Is it because God is inherantly selfish? Because God possesses the vice that is repeatedly instilled in us by the bible? Because God created man, we are expected to serve and praise him. But unless God is selfish, he wouldn't care whether we repaid him with our eternal praise and gratitude. In the bible it is preached that we should give without expecting something in return. But why does God give us life then expect our eternal praise in return? Seems rather hypocrytical.
    He does not want us to necissarily praise him, only to acknowlege his existance and to know he is our superior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkKnight
    Is it because God is inherantly selfish? Because God possesses the vice that is repeatedly instilled in us by the bible? Because God created man, we are expected to serve and praise him. But unless God is selfish, he wouldn't care whether we repaid him with our eternal praise and gratitude. In the bible it is preached that we should give without expecting something in return. But why does God give us life then expect our eternal praise in return? Seems rather hypocrytical.

    I have often wondered that myself. I guess he just wants to be acknowledged for his work
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    I think its part of being what God sees as good. You can't be good without praising God, because then you would be too proud or arrogant, you know?

    The praising is not cause by the fact that God wants praise, but that God wants you to be Good.
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    Answer: God doesn't need us to praise him at all.

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    Why does God need us to praise him?

    He doesn't. Some Humans feel the need to praise god, therein lies the 'problem'.
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    Why does God want us to praise him? Why did God create humans? Because he is good? No. I actually wouldn't know.

    I read somewhere the main reasons for our existence. At number 1 was to praise God. There you have it. As for the question why... well I can only give a human response to it.
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    DarkNight; but the difference in motives/causes makes all the difference.
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    god needs us to praise him for worshipping points (wsp)
    when he has 100 wsp he can cast a miracle
    if we dont praise him he doesnt ge those points and get mad. then he throws rocks at us or makes his holy cow eat civilians...then ppl start worshipping again

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    If you created everything, wouldn't you want some praise and appreciation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God
    If you created everything, wouldn't you want some praise and appreciation?
    Only if you feel insecure in your status as God do you need the reassurance of prayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeakus Maximus
    Only if you feel insecure in your status as God do you need the reassurance of prayers.
    And who wants a doubting god? Certainly not the conservative christians who want a god to be swift and just in his decisions. An insecure God is not worthy of worshipping.

    Why does he order us to worship him?
    Point is: he doesn't.
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