Herman Cain: Communities should have right to ban mosques‎

**Vanoi** · July 17, 2011, 12:55 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/herman-cain-te...150045303.html

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

So much for freedom of religion right? Atleast someone like Cain will never win the Republican nomination.

**MathiasOfAthens** · July 17, 2011, 01:28 PM

What an idiot.... obviously he realized he has no chance at the presidency but he if he wins enough of the Tea Party he might make a run for the congress.

**Irish Warrior** · July 17, 2011, 01:35 PM

Well, god bless America.

**Hotspur** · July 17, 2011, 01:36 PM

"The people in the community know best. And I happen to side with the people in the community.”

**Knighterrant777** · July 17, 2011, 01:49 PM

*Facepalm* I am sick and tired of this crazy guy.

**(s)AINT** · July 17, 2011, 01:45 PM

Freedom of religion. (amendment void if you are not a white Christian conservative).

**Gromovnik** · July 17, 2011, 01:47 PM

I like the guy, he's not affraid to say what he thinks about terrorists.

**Vanoi** · July 17, 2011, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Gromovnik

I like the guy, he's not affraid to say what he thinks about terrorists.

So the Muslims who want to build their Mosque in Tennesse are terrorists?

**cfmonkey45** · July 17, 2011, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Azoth

So the Muslims who want to build their Mosque in Tennesse are terrorists?

Apparently one of the things that fueled this was that one of the parishoners of the Mosque posted something on facebook, condemning Israel and speaking highly of Hezbollah, IIRC. I guess the Imam did some damage control, but certain Tea Party figures are trying to say that there is a connection between it and terrorism (surprise, surprise).

Also,

**~~Yosemite~~** · July 17, 2011, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Gromovnik

I like the guy, he's not affraid to say what he thinks about terrorists.

aren't you a little upset that he is gonna lose all the support he's ever had?

**Prosaic Visitant** · July 17, 2011, 01:47 PM

I like it how one nut says something and all the sudden it's implied that all of America is discriminatory. So the guys has a narrow mind, wow.

**MathiasOfAthens** · July 17, 2011, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Dúnadan

I like it how one nut says something and all the sudden it's implied that all of America is discriminatory. So the guys has a narrow mind, wow.

Who is blaming all of America. Its just funny that this guy says things that make him sound like a nut. I mean hes said it before about the community and the states knowing best yet he completely missed the bit about history regarding the southern states. Republicans dont pay much attention to history anyway.

**Astaroth** · July 17, 2011, 01:51 PM

“I know that there is a peaceful group of Muslims in this country.”

Ah, so the vast majority of Muslims aren't peaceful? Charming fellow.

**Simon Cashmere** · July 17, 2011, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Astaroth

Ah, so the vast majority of Muslims aren't peaceful? Charming fellow.

The vast majority of muslims may well be (although how we'd know this I'm not sure) but the ideology of Islam, is anything but peaceful.

**Vanoi** · July 17, 2011, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere

The vast majority of muslims may well be (although how we'd know this I'm not sure) but the ideology of Islam, is anything but peaceful.

Few religions, if any, can take the title of peaceful. Islam isn't a peaceful religion. Chrstianty isn't a peaceful religion. Judaism isn't a peaceful religion. The point of the story though is that stopping the building of the mosque would violate thier 1st amendment rights. And that Herman Cain is an idiot.

**Simon Cashmere** · July 18, 2011, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Azoth

Few religions, if any, can take the title of peaceful. Islam isn't a peaceful religion. Chrstianty isn't a peaceful religion. Judaism isn't a peaceful religion. The point of the story though is that stopping the building of the mosque would violate thier 1st amendment rights. And that Herman Cain is an idiot.

First thing, whether all religions are peaceful or not, doesn't change or affect whether Islam is.

Bringing other religions into the debates about Islam, is a distraction tactic used by apologists.

Mohammed taught that Muslims must subjugate and war against unbelievers, sura 9:29, until they are conquered and feel subordinated, until you have the 'dar al salam' - House of Islam. The only peace you get with Islam is once all its enemies, that is, most of the people reading this, are submissive under sharia law.

009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

This quote, and many others in the Koran - mean that Westerners, and all infidels, have to live in submission under Islam. This is not a political party which can be debated - it is said to be a divine command, which is much, much worse. We as westerners, are the new Jews as far as Islam is concerned. During the years under the Third Reich, the Jews hoped, against hope - that they could, reason, bargain, placate appease the Third Reich. But they never could, and they died. The same thing will happen to non-muslims if Islam obtains power in the West or the ability to enforce their will against us as it is totalitarian, and cannot be bargained with. Those it deems are 'unter mensche' have only such rights as the Islamic state gives them under Islamic law, which is the ability to live as second class citizens and be subdued.

I'm sorry, I don't want that - and Islam is not peaceful. And its such an important topic, that even if people disagree with me, we as Westerners need to talk about this, and consider it *very* carefully, as it affects foreign policy,immigration policy, national sovereignty. Bringing people into the West that belong to an ideology that is committed as an article of faith to our destruction, is manifest foolishness.

And then people will say, 9;29, bad translation, out of context, doesn't mean that. The difficulty is that, many muslims, including their scholars, believe this is exactly what it means, as this website below demonstrates. There are many others.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

http://www.quranwebsite.com/text55/009___al_tauba_.html

The courage to oppose Islam requires extreme courage, and it is courage that most people do not have. The Multiculti Welfare state has allied itself with Islam, which is an act of treason that places the sovereignty of Western people and their own governments at risk. Read the quote - Muslims are required to fight, until unbelievers are no longer able to rule over men. That is you and I, so our governments are gone and the only rulers, are muslims.

Our ancestors were required to defend the West with rifles and by taking fire. The home front against Islam, only requires courage to speak out. I know that's hard, but, it is a far lesser sacrifice and an important one.

Something else - the Koran and its obligations and commands, are often recited by muslims until they learn it by heart. These schools are called 'madrassas'. In Pakistan, there are 12,000 of these schools alone, where children are taught to recite verses, which command our destruction, day after day, after day. There are something like 100 of these verses in the Koran. But most of you would never know, you have never read the Koran, and the government knows most of you won't ever read it. So they tell you what they want it to be - which is peaceful, and they know that anyone who tries to say any differently will be just shouted down and ridiculously called a 'racist' (what race is Islam again?).

If you have an open mind, if you are on of those people in the middle, go and read this for yourself. If you are one of the left wing supporters of the welfare state, there is no hope for you so I don't even bother. Although, Pat Condell was a leftist and has changed his mind now.

Get a few books and find out what it means. Majid Khadduri's book 'War and Peace in the Law of Islam' is a great book, but its too hard for most people to read. I am used to reading dull heavy academic works so I can get through it, but I sent a copy to an University Professor and he said he couldnt read past the first 3 chapters. So instead I would say - read ' Modern Day Trojan Horse' by Sam Solomon (Author), E Al Maqdisi (Author). I have given this book to a lot of people who argued with me til they were blue in the face, and once they read that the penny dropped.

http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Day-Tro.../dp/0979492955

**Admiral Piett** · July 18, 2011, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere

First thing, whether all religions are peaceful or not, doesn't change or affect whether Islam is.

Bringing other religions into the debates about Islam, is a distraction tactic used by apologists.

Mohammed taught that Muslims must subjugate and war against unbelievers, sura 9:29, until they are conquered and feel subordinated, until you have the 'dar al salam' - House of Islam. The only peace you get with Islam is once all its enemies, that is, most of the people reading this, are submissive under sharia law.

This quote, and many others in the Koran - mean that Westerners, and all infidels, have to live in submission under Islam. This is not a political party which can be debated - it is said to be a divine command, which is much, much worse. We as westerners, are the new Jews as far as Islam is concerned. During the years udner the THird Reich, the Jews hoped, against hope - that they could, reason, bargain, placate appease the Third Reich. But they never could, and they died. The same thing will happen to non-muslims if Muslims obtain power in the West or the ability to enforce their will against us.

I'm sorry, I don't want that - and Islam is not peaceful. And its such an important topic, that even if people disagree with me, we as Westerners need to talk about this, and consider it *very* carefully, as it affects foreign policy,immigration policy, national sovereignty. Bringing people into the West that belong to an ideology that is committed as an article of faith to our destruction, is manifest foolishness.

And then people will say, 9;29, bad translation, out of context, doesn't mean that. The difficulty is that, many muslims, including their scholars, believe this is exactly what it means, as this website below demonstrates. There are many others.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

http://www.quranwebsite.com/text55/009___al_tauba_.html

The courage to oppose Islam requires extreme courage, and it is courage that most people do not have. The Multiculti Welfare state has allied itself with Islam, which is an act of treason that places the sovereignty of Western people and their own governments at risk. Read the quote - Muslims are required to fight, until unbelievers are no longer able to rule over men. That is you and I, so our governments are gone and the only rulers, are muslims.

Our ancestors were required to defend the West with rifles and by taking fire. The home front against Islam, only requires courage to speak out. I know that's hard, but, it is a far lesser sacrifice and an important one.

The threat of home grown terrorism far outweighs any threat of Sharia law becoming present in the US. If I were a city supervisor, I'd merely want to know if the funds are coming from Saudi Arabia or not.

**Akar** · July 17, 2011, 03:25 PM

Oh look, another racist nut job who decided to tell his ideas on TV and now its a big deal. This will never happen, even if it does it will be appealed immediately and deemed unconstitutional. The vast majority of the worlds 1.57 billion Muslims, nearly 25% of the world, are not terrorists. Its a hilarious idea and a good idea for some kind of budget summer action movie.