Roma Surrectum 2: Guide?

[Jean Lannes]

Hi all!
I am back again with a little request ... I am looking for a tecnologies' tree \ guide to plan the construction of buildings and "laws" expecially for the first turns of the campaign when I have to face many economic problems (es. making more money ;-) ).
Probably,even a guide on "how to survive the first 15 turns" like in SPQR mod could be the same ...

In the end,I think that a sort of "guide" or this mod could be useful even more for people like me that starts now playing this game.

Thanks a lot!

[Jean=A=Luc]

Probably,even a guide on "how to survive the first 15 turns" like in SPQR mod could be the same ...

You mean like a "survival guide"? Hmmm...

[Jean Lannes]

You mean like a "survival guide"? Hmmm...

Yeah,right! The point is that there are many new things (buildings,laws etc) that change radically the approach to the game and probably a pratical explanation of how to deal with them could be useful for newbies like me

[Ybbon]

Try AristotleFolly's Guide. Gives an excellent introduction on what to do and why. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=396194

It's a guide, don't take it as gospel, personally I keep the slingers and abandon both Dyrrhacium and Emporiae but make sure I destroy everything I can first but give it a whirl. Once you get the basics as per this guide, it will help enormously.

[Jean=A=Luc]

Try AristotleFolly's Guide. Gives an excellent introduction on what to do and why. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=396194

Oh yeah, that's the one.

[Aristotle's Folly]

Oh yeah, that's the one.

~ Dani ~

[Jean Lannes]

I read the interesting part of Aristotle's Folly guide where she describes her legion's composition.
I prefer to use this one instead:

1 General
8 Republican Cohort
2 Trarii
2 Equites
2 (or 4) Velites

I think it's more "historical".
Trarii was always 1 to 4 in proportion to Hastati and Princeps infantry so if we use 8 Republican Cohort,Trarii should be 2.
Same discussion for Equites,they were in proportion of 1 to 8 (always referred to Hastati and Princeps infantry) but their units in game are smaller so we can use 2 of them.
Velites was used in a great number (1 to 2 is the proportion) but,referring to them as skirmishers and shooters,half of their slots (2 of 4) could be used for more specialistics units (Balearic slingers,Cretan Archers or Greek Slingers)

With this system I have 4 (or 2) slots free to choose merc or "auxilia" in order to support better the legion in the different situations or enemies to be faced.

Mostly I use 2 additional units of heavy cavarly (Campanians or Latins to give a more mobile and heavy cavarly force) and 2 ranged unit (Cretan Archers or Greek Slingers).

Speaking of cavarly,I still have faced no fight in Africa but I am going to replace,for the Legions in this theater of operations,the Equites or the Heavy Cavarly with Numidians.

In the republican period in substitution of "Auxilia \ Support legion" I use an "Allied Legion",built as the Roman one but composed by allied units following the Roman historical habit to raise an Allied Legion every Roman legion they create for a campaign.

Any suggestions?

[Jean Lannes]

Perfect! I am going to read it! Thanks a lot!

[johnnieangel]

read and used it. tremendously helpful!

[Ybbon]

Up to you. Some people make their house rules and follow historical expansion and Legion composition, personally I use troops as I see fit, so better cavalry if possible, rarely use Velites or their equivalents and expand as circumstance dictate. Are you sticking to a set of house rules?

[Jean Lannes]

Well,I think that at last flexibility is the key: we can arrange different solutions starting from the basic infantry compositions of a Legion!

Where can I find this "house rules" you are talking about?

[naq]

Hmmm. Why don't recruit triarii instead of cohorts? They have better stats.

[Ybbon]

Where can I find this "house rules" you are talking about?

There are no single set of house rules. Some (many) players define their own set of house rules and try to stick to them.

For example, never retrain until the force is less than 50%, must retrain in original settlement they were raised in. All armies must be lead by a General. All settlements must have a governor.

etc.....

Have a search, there are threads where people have discussed their house rules if you want some ideas. This is a decent starting place: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ht=house+rules

[Jean Lannes]

Because historically that would be without sense ... Trarii were an elite soldiers of the Legion ... it would be the same of building ten First Legionary Cohort only beacause they have better stats and greater number of men

[savagepumpkin]

Because historically that would be without sense ... Trarii were an elite soldiers of the Legion ... it would be the same of building ten First Legionary Cohort only beacause they have better stats and greater number of men

Yeah, I got your point, but in order to make a truly realistic performance you would have to expand your requirements.

In the true story there were two councils every year with only two legions for each one, so you would have to change your generals in two turns until Julius Caesar, all the time, which is so damn tedious.

Anyway, I´m following your style,

[apple]

I personally use a more or less the same set up
1 (or 2) Generals (if 2 then one is acting as a minor)
8 Republican Cohort
2 Trarii
2 (or 3) Equites
4 Velites

This makes a full stack and works for most armies you will encounter during the early game. It's also highly historical accurate thus for me at least more fun.