money problem

**Legionary Jezza** · March 21, 2006, 02:35 PM

in my sttlement mi income goes down to like -6000!!!! what should i do

**hellheaven1987** · March 21, 2006, 02:55 PM

Do nothing and wait the defeat message comes out.

**Legionary Jezza** · March 21, 2006, 02:56 PM

u no that don't really help lol

**.Socrates** · March 21, 2006, 03:04 PM

How many settlements do you control?
What difficulty is it on?

**hellheaven1987** · March 21, 2006, 03:05 PM

Then do some conquer and extermine the building, it would help to release the pressure for one to two turns, but you still need to deal the problem later.

Disband some useless units, it can release some pressure, then build up all economic buildings. That's probably the only way to solve the problem, but you need enough time.

**MasterAdnin** · March 21, 2006, 05:03 PM

Higher tax rates, cut the military budget(disband units), lower town garrisons, and possibly sell some buildings.

ADnan

**NobleNick** · March 21, 2006, 07:52 PM

If it is only this town, you probably only have a problem with economics in that town, or else that town's population is very large. You see, the town's final "income" number that you see on the campaign map includes the army "burden." (I have purposefully not called this a "tax" because it is -NOT- the same as the tax rate you set in the town's construction window. Remember, taxes are good, burden is bad) This burden is doled out to each town in proportion to that town's percentage of your empire's total population. Was that clear? Maybe not. Here is an example. The numbers are made up, but the concept they illustrate is not....

Example: Say you have 10 cities, each with a population of 12K, and each town nets 4000 denarii in taxes/farm/trade/mines/corruption/etc but before taking into acount the military "burden". You also have one city with a population of 30K that brings in 5000 denarii before burden. That is a total population of 150K, bringing in 45K denarii. Now, lets say that your army upkeep is 40K. Your largest town's share of this is 40K * (30K/150K) = 40K / 5 = 8K. So your campaign map will show this town's income as 5k - 8K = -3000 denarii. Each of the other town's will show 4k - 3.2K = 0.8K = +800 denarii. So your largest city looks like a loser, when in reality, it is contributing more to your treasury than any of your other cities!

Things you can do in general to improve economy: Build and upgrade roads, ports and markets. Build/upgrade temples and take other actions (which I won't detail here), so that you can reduce the need for standing armies in your towns. Disband or use up excess military power. (I always find that my treasury rockets up just after I have suffered devastating losses in a military conflict.) Capture more towns (spreads the military burden over more towns). Capture the Greek wonder (I *think* it is at Rhodes) that increases sea trade by 40%. Capture the Greek wonder that gives happiness bonus to all your settlements (I *think* it is at Sparta; if not then it's Corinth). This, again, reduces the need for standing troops. Hey, while you are at it, just capture every Greek city there is: They all have gold oozing out of every pore.

That should do ya for now. Hope that helps.