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    http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25604

    An interesting article while reading it one line really hit home.

    Israel's government has not clarified what it means by the term "Jewish state," nor defined what it considers that state's borders to be.

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    Montreal, July 12, 2011 -- According to CBC and the Toronto Star, a spokesman for Canada's Foreign Affairs Minister has indicated that Canada will oppose the Palestinian Authority's bid for statehood. The bid is expected to be voted on at the UN in September. Spokesman Chris Day said, "the only solution to this conflict is one negotiated between and agreed to by the two parties." He added that, "one of the states must be a Jewish state and recognized as such, while the Palestinian state is to be a nonmilitarized one."

    Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations foundered in September 2010. One key trigger was Israel's resumption of the building of illegal Jewish-only colonies (settlements) on Palestinian land. The other was the Netanyahu administration's introduction of a new precondition for negotiations: that the Palestinians recognize Israel defined as "a Jewish state." Israel's transfer of its civilian population to the Palestinian territories it has militarily occupied since 1967 violates international law and has been repeatedly criticized by most UN members. Israel's government has not clarified what it means by the term "Jewish state," nor defined what it considers that state's borders to be.

    "Given Israel's evident lack of commitment to a negotiated solution to the conflict, we are dismayed by the Canadian government's rejection of the Palestinian bid for statehood," says Thomas Woodley, President of Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East (CJPME). CJPME points out that the right to national self-determination is a right protected in international law. It is also important to note that the UN Partition Plan of 1947 initially called for the creation of a Palestinian State. UN members have an obligation to support the prompt creation of this state.

    Canada's Foreign Affairs spokesman did not indicate what Canada was prepared to do to pressure Israel to respect international law so that substantive peace negotiations can begin. CJPME also observes that despite Israel's frequent lethal military actions against Palestinians, Day did not urge that Israel -- the world's fourth largest military power -- too be a "nonmilitarized" state. CJPME believes Canada's Middle East policy should express equal expectations for all parties to conflicts.

    For more information, please contact: Patricia Jean Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East

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    What is this Jewish State? I am upset that Canada is so evil.

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    Holy , Canada did something Foreign policy! Silly Canucks..,

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    lol Canada.

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    Damn..so now Canada is becoming USA #2 in mideast policies ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarry View Post
    Damn..so now Canada is becoming USA #2 in mideast policies ...
    Well trying to at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarry View Post
    Damn..so now Canada is becoming USA #2 in mideast policies ...
    We're trying to become USA #2 in almost all regards. Our support for Israel (well, support by our government) is second to none.

    Then again, the whole political spectrum in almost all of the Western world is being shifted to the right. Increased security states, increased corporate takeover, austerity measures, increased warfare, etc.
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    I don't think there is any doubt that Netanyahu doesn't care about the negotiations. IF PM Netanyahu was serious about negotiations he would have permanently stopped all construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. That, and that ridiculous law banning boycotts are all reasons why Fatah feels estranged. Its obvious why settlements are being built. Once they are there, there will be reason to oppose Palestinian independence due to the presence of Israeli nationals who would have to be moved. The Israeli government are attempting to legitimise a continued blasé attitude towards negotiations.

    I don't think the Palestinians want to wait for a possible power shift to Tzipi Livni and the Kadima Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YukonTrooper View Post
    We're trying to become USA #2 in almost all regards. Our support for Israel (well, support by our government) is second to none.

    Then again, the whole political spectrum in almost all of the Western world is being shifted to the right. Increased security states, increased corporate takeover, austerity measures, increased warfare, etc.
    I've seen little evidence of this. Doing the pragmatic thing and resorting to austerity has nothing to do with shifting politically to the right.
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    O Canada, just when you thought you were a sovereign nation...
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    I hate my government.
    Edit-Here's an article from the Canadian Press on the matter, hosted on the CBC's website:
    Canada is rejecting a Palestinian effort to win recognition at the United Nations as an independent state.
    The move is not surprising given that the Harper government has forcefully highlighted its loyalty to Israel and the United States. Both oppose the Palestinian initiative.
    The Palestinian Authority, which controls most of the West Bank, launched a campaign last month that will see it pursue a vote on statehood at the United Nations General Assembly in September — an effort borne out of its frustration over a peace process that is stalled.
    The top Palestinian diplomat in Canada says her official delegation will still push hard for the support of Ottawa.
    "On the conflict, we would like to see the Canadian government taking a neutral stand, supporting the creation of the state of Palestine, supporting the recognition of Palestine as a full member state in the UN in September," Linda Sobeh Ali, head of the Palestinian delegation, told The Canadian Press.
    Sobeh Ali also said her delegation is pushing Canada to recognize Israel's pre-1967 borders — something Prime Minister Stephen Harper forcefully opposed, and managed to block from being part of the final communique of G8 leaders at their recent May summit in France.
    "Our government's long-standing position has not changed. The only solution to this conflict is one negotiated between and agreed to by the two parties," said Chris Day, the spokesman for Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird.
    "One of the states must be a Jewish state and recognized as such, while the Palestinian state is to be a non-militarized one."
    The Palestinians are trying to win the requisite two-thirds support in the assembly — 128 votes among the 192 member countries — before the matter is considered by the Security Council. They have reportedly won the support of more than 100 countries.
    Harper's stand at the G8 pitted him against U.S. President Barack Obama, who only a week earlier said in a major speech that the pre-1967 border should be a starting point for the resumption of stalled peace talks between the Israelis and Palestinians.
    But Washington last week reiterated its opposition to the Palestinian push for UN recognition of its statehood.
    A State Department spokeswoman said the Palestinian move would not be helpful to getting the parties back to the bargaining table.
    Canada echoes that view.
    We will monitor developments at the UN and respond appropriately," said Day. "As G8 leaders declared at Deauville, unilateral action is ultimately unhelpful."
    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is to host a meeting Monday of the UN Secretary General, the European Union and Russian foreign ministers — the so-called "quartet" of Middle East peacemakers.
    Harper's reputation

    The Harper government has been widely criticized for siding slavishly with Israel and turning a blind eye to the suffering of Palestinian people.
    Rami Khouri, a leading Mideast analyst based in Lebanon, said in a recent interview that Canada has been traditionally viewed in the region as a country that has had a "sense of decency and fairness in its foreign policy."
    But that can be compromised, he added, by siding too much with Israel.
    "I think the critical point for any Western government — Canadian, American, British — is to differentiate between supporting the security of Israel and opposing the colonization polices of Israel. Israel within its 1967 borders is a phenomenon the world accepts, even the Arabs," Khouri said.
    "Any real friend of Israel should tell Israel, `we support you, your security but we don't support what you're doing'."
    Leaked Israeli diplomatic cables, obtained by the newspaper Haaretz, give details about its foreign ministry's diplomatic offensive to counter the Palestinian UN campaign.
    Israel's marching orders to its embassies are to lobby politicians, and use Jewish groups and the local media to make its case.
    "The goal is to get the country in which you serve to vote against recognizing a Palestinian state," said the memo given to Haaretz. "Your plan must include approaching the most senior politicians, mobilizing the relevant force multipliers (such as local Jewish communities, non-governmental organizations) using the media, influencing local public opinion, and public diplomacy aimed at all relevant communities."
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...ine-state.html
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    I like how this is portrayed in the media, as the states, israel and canada picking on palestine, when the main issue is the world unilaterally deciding an issue without negotiating with the main party it affects.

    Let's just hope they were fascist communist kittens who were on their way to international fascist communist fair.

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    Not only that, but people are going all "aarrggghhh stupid canucks i hate me government", without even realizing that what Canada is doing is actually saying "no" to war and "yes" to the peace process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    Not only that, but people are going all "aarrggghhh stupid canucks i hate me government", without even realizing that what Canada is doing is actually saying "no" to war and "yes" to the peace process.
    independence could help with the peace process

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    independence could help with the peace process
    Through negotiation yes, but how does unilaterally declaring the borders of a new nation help the peace process in any respect, ignoring security and social concerns in the affected areas.

    Let's just hope they were fascist communist kittens who were on their way to international fascist communist fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humvee2800 View Post
    Through negotiation yes, but how does unilaterally declaring the borders of a new nation help the peace process in any respect, ignoring security and social concerns in the affected areas.
    the fact that those areas were already settled by the people getting them back before they were kicked out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by humvee2800 View Post
    Through negotiation yes, but how does unilaterally declaring the borders of a new nation help the peace process in any respect, ignoring security and social concerns in the affected areas.
    Why negotiate when the other party has no sincere interest in peace?
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    Why negotiate when the other party has no sincere interest in peace?
    Last time I checked, Israel offered Hamas to enter negotiations without any preconditions and never got an answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    Not only that, but people are going all "aarrggghhh stupid canucks i hate me government", without even realizing that what Canada is doing is actually saying "no" to war and "yes" to the peace process.
    They're not saying that all...
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    Such things happen when you elects a xenophobic neocon into ruling over your country.

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