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    RIGHT...I've promised these for a while, but had so much lore to upload that I only managed the Ahsapuri units. Badabaskan troops are to follow, but there'll be a lot of information on the CThonae and the Ghaurchlai (pronounced GOWER-KLAI) first.

    TADAH! WOLFBORN GODLSAYERS; their Heroic unit, which all factions have...these are the butchers of the battlefield!

    'Something stirred amongst the ranks of the Wolfborn. The Bearweirds and wolf brethren parted, bowing their heads in suplication. Lightning flashed across the heads of the waiting warriors. Where normal men seem not enough, when a battle is all but lost, men turn to heroes, to the best of their own. They hold lines that would otherwise crumble, and die where they stand shouting a litany of defiance to the last man. From the deep ranks strode the Godslayers. They had slain a god in the past, so legend states, a war god of the deep waters, intent on drowning their fleet. From ships and masts, they flung themselves at him, cutting him ever more deeply, clinging to his flesh in a violent, primal struggle, till he sank beneath the waves, leaving gouts of blood in the water. A wind stirred, called by their holymen, calling on their own deity, as the Godslayers stood, screaming their victory to the winds, which had once had a brother beneath the waves.



    As the foes' ranks shuddered, it was not mere men that walked towards them, but killers of gods, the crackling streaks of blue lightning hissing as they stood alone, facing a host thrice their number. The battle already won, simply by the power and weight of their doom-laden gaze. For what can mere men do against something so terrible that the power of gods was once not enough?







    Hope you like!

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    Oh nuts...axe models are Lord Calidor's....they just fitted so well.

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    oooh,always wondered what they'd look like
    i like these a lot,i see your going for a vikingish style with them?
    anyways,+rep

    btw,incase you think im a bit inactive,its because im in the netherlands for a holiday

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    Awesome!!! I love wolfborn!!
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    Those guys are amazing. If you don't mind me asking, will every faction have a heroe unit? If so then that is awesome! Go Dragonborn!
    Sorry HP, I just was glad someone else will say semi-random things, everyone always thinks I'm crazy when i do it. But thats ok, the voices in my head are good company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhytgbvfeco2 View Post
    oooh,always wondered what they'd look like
    i like these a lot,i see your going for a vikingish style with them?
    anyways,+rep

    btw,incase you think im a bit inactive,its because im in the netherlands for a holiday
    Uhm, glad you like 'em!

    I was kinda tying NOT to be viking as much as possible, but I think there will always be an association with them; they are an influence for sure. They cling to ancestral lands like limpets, and they raid mostly because they HAVE to, but they've not been conquerers as such in the past - they HAVE fought against the EMpire and the Sun King many times, and have joined armies trying to bring the EMpire down, but they have also fought with Ashapur, although they're a valued trade partner - slaves are good business!

    WHat has changed now is that they hyave a young leader, who wishes to lead them a different way. |He wants fertile lands, wants to test his men against other nations, wants to become a power to be reckoned with. The Wolfborn are at a spire in their power, and the world will feel the power from the Wolver Isles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hercules18 View Post
    Awesome!!! I love wolfborn!!
    Cool! Well, I have many ideas for their troops, and their roster IS pretty good. Their troops are veterans of many clashes..none are weaklings and they are brutal, efficient killers with no real softness in them, no compassion for the most part. Makes 'em pretty dangerous

    Quote Originally Posted by Clansman117 View Post
    Those guys are amazing. If you don't mind me asking, will every faction have a heroe unit? If so then that is awesome! Go Dragonborn!
    Thanks

    Yes, every faction has one or two 'heroic' units. They ARE very strong, but always difficult to sustain in the field. We're trying to mess with the recruitment of these heroic units, so hope to do something quite different.

    Other Heroic units...a couple

    Selediri - Dragonbloods
    Principality of Steel - Knights of the Queen's Innocence and The Royal Gryphons (gryphon mounted knights)
    Chitkinnen - Pit Razors
    Ildiri - Tears of Ithil (BIG story behind them)
    Lindiri - Ravenshrouds

    and many more.


    Sorry HP, I just was glad someone else will say semi-random things, everyone always thinks I'm crazy when i do it. But thats ok, the voices in my head are good company.
    Ring-a-Ring of Roses
    Pocket full of posies
    ....we all fall, down...

    Just don't ever do that one...small children singing it slightly out of tune is a terrifying thing...if I sing it, the terror comes from the fact it's me singing, not the rhyme itself..

    As for voices in the head...at least you never run out of company! Never a bad thing...just ask the 42 Squeaks....

    COme to think of it, I reckon at least one of those Squeaks of mine is slightly mad...certainly the others point the finger at number 22. Not convinced it's not a vendetta though, as number 22 is always chatting away and is a bit rude for drowning out the others...



    I has best investigate when they're all awake. Get back to you later about it.

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    I love that you're trying to do something different, and for the most part, seem like you're succeeding, but I think you'll have to accept that people are going to make comparisons.
    Now, will the Empire have hero units of its own or just the provincial ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torvus View Post
    I love that you're trying to do something different, and for the most part, seem like you're succeeding, but I think you'll have to accept that people are going to make comparisons.
    Yep...you're not wrong. There's no such thing as an author or world creator who can stay away from drawing some inspiration from our history. The big no-no for me is other peoples' work.

    What I did throughout the long ten years was to take names and stuff from myths, folklore, and history and then take names, mess with them, ideas, mess with them, so that this was

    a. Not completely alien to people
    b. As unique as is possible
    c. Organised chaos

    When I say about peoples' mentioning of other factors, I mean simply to remind that I've spent so much time the above. I'm never grumpy about it, for sure

    WHen I made this thingy, it was from so many things...from Ladybird books only vaguely remembered from when I was 6, from fairy tales, from english stories/myths like the Lambton worm, and every childhood play fantasy, lost in worlds of imagination and things I wished WERE real.

    So there are units with warped names...Lindiri Taurcenian Guard for instance are essentially minotaurs...Taur from Taurus..so bull (the animal! )

    Scyllan Devourers for the SUn King are obviously the myth of Scylla and Charybdis, BUT they are man sized creatures, not multi-headed beasties that trash ships' crews. STaying with the SUn King, we have Daughters of Charybdis sister to scylla, the whirlpool beastie), we have Icarine Knights (so winged knights, but only flying just off the ground to make movement quicker)...there are parallels, but they're still imagined differently/uniquely.

    I think I will post the entirety of a faction's roster, with descriptions, then this can be shown better...why not start with the SUn King? Will try to do this tonight, so in the next couple of hours.


    Now, will the Empire have hero units of its own or just the provincial ones?
    Heh. Well,of COURSE they have heroic units. The Emperor's Warflame are one, for example....

    'Around the EMperor stood the ANcillian Pitdogs, arrayed in a haphazard fashion, each finding the room for their unique fighting style. To his back, front and in support of the Pit Dogs, there were the Men of the EMperor's Warflame, bearers of the flaming standard, burning with a flame that needed no fuel, flapping in the wind like a burning briar, showering the stern men beneath in twisting shreds of burning flares.

    They were braced tightly in their deep ranks, and they looked to the fore as one. No give was in their eyes, nothing here would break or fail, and the men around them in the line drew comfort, even inspiration from these silent men who stood like statues...

    ...a knot of Revenants beat their path through the ANcillian Pit Dogs, tossing them aside like dolls. Aginst the Warflame they moved, their meathooks dragging along the floor, wailing like something alive. The Warflame enclosed the EMperor, and stood to meet this savage foe.

    The Revenants struck the lines, and there was no give. For a second, this seemed to shock the Revenants, and the Warflame moved as one. SPears snicked forwads, thrust twice forwards, then withdrawn; effortless, savage and in absolute unision, they struck, and Revenants fell - but more came, and on the right other Ghaur were pressing towards the EMperor. A rippling movement came from the Warflame, and they encased the EMperor in a ring of steel, but he was the greatest man to have lived, and he took the frontline. When the Revenants attacked again, there was blue flame in the eyes of the warriors who knew no fear and met them with a savage smile. Within that smile was no humour, only death.

    See? Heroes indeed!!

    SUN KING ROSTER

    Here y'are. The SUn King's Roster. STrange that

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    YOUNG SONS

    These men are sent to the EMpire to serve their youth as poorly paid mercenaries, the return when they have served fo at least 15 years, no longer the smiling youth that their parents last saw, but grim eyed men of war.They fight with a large round shield and a long spear. They form the backbone of any Rebel army, as they are the most numerous.

    SUNSHIELDS

    The Sun King stand within a halo or radiance, and the shining golden shields of the SUn SHields represent this above all others. This unit is comprised of the better veterans of the Young Sons, and rotate ranks during a battle to prevent individuals becomeing exhausted.

    MOON SHIELDS

    As the wife of the sun, the Moon is formed of women who have been the wives of the young sons, highly trained in their absence. Where there were once women of youyth and beauty, there are stern, strong women, many of whom are widows. They fight next to their brothers in war, SUna dn Moon Shields standing together, unbreakable.

    MOON MAIDENS - BOTH AFOOT AND MOUNTED

    The Moon Maidens are women who are attached to either the Moon Cult or the Daughters of the Skyhorse, huntress of the skies. They are vital to the army, as they are expert archers. Mounted or unmounted, they serve with a grace and run with loping strides. They are truly beautiful, and are celibate, wedded to the Mistress of the Moon, upon her Skyhorse.



    ICARUS KNIGHTS

    The Icarine Knights are a highly mobile force of winged infantry. They wield Ley javelins and use ley wings that are powered by the sun. They are a highly regarded force and can certainly more than hold their own in melee, but their speed and the sunfire javelins they throw make them tactically unique in the SUn King's Host.

    EXILIAN WATCH

    The Dour Exilian Watch are an ancient force, one from before records began. Who trained them is not certain, but why they trained them is. The unit fights close to the Sun King at all times, and they solidly support his persoanl guard, but they posses skills beyond the norm, preternaturally strong and blessed with celerity, they put fear into most foes, but their real skill lies in the possibility of war with the CThoane, or when the Ghaur should rise again. Wehn this happens, they are uniquely prepared to tear them apart.

    MYRMAEN GAURD

    Inculding men and women in their ranks, the Myrmae are spiritual warriors. They are a part of the Maenad Cult and they represent a force of chaos and madness that usually lies below the surface of those at war. The Myrmae embraced this madness and hurl it back at their foes. Away from war, they tend the temples, cleaning stairs and floors, muted and subdued, but in a battle, you should prefer to fight on their side, not against them.


    STYXIAN GUARD

    Very difficult to stop or kill, the Styxian Guard are born between the normal world and the Farstream, dipped within it's waters by desperate mothers, they either die or survive; those that survive are fantastically hard to kill. Many joke that they don't even need armour, that it is simply to protect their virtue, but it is probably true. Their skin is blackened in places, and veins run grey through other body parts. Not all of the body is covered, and they are the weaker spots. Wielding two handed axes, they are a ruthless, implacable enemy.

    LIONS OF ERYN

    The Lions of Eryn are women and men mounted on the backs of the Lions that live near the city of ELis. ALl mounts are male, heavily maned in black, and their speed, ferocity and the inevitable pounce that shatters ranks is a terrible thing for their enemies. To be struck by a sword is one thing; to face these massive warbeasts, and their highly skilled, armed and armoured riders simply overpower most foes. They are a brave and noble unit, and the riders hunt with their mounts and share all meat together.


    SISTERS OF CHARYBDIS

    These women are slightly deformed, twisted and maimed. They are said to have been broken by the powers they learn to control, but the tgruth may never be known by any outside the order. The Sisters are rare indeed...humans that have managed to master some of the Werding - the use of the Ley Magic that pulses through the nerve centres of the Dragon.

    With this force, they summon glowing swords, lash their foes with invisible whips of pain. Their very voices are a shrill cacophany.


    SCYLLAN DEVOURERS

    These oddities have snake-like heads, and can open their jaws wide, with a maw that fosters hundreds of teeth. They bite deeply, then suck their foes into the Void itself, dragging foes into the void that surrounds each world, swallowing them into a frozen void beyond the dragon's body.



    HOUNDS OF KEREBUS

    Great warhounds, these are unleashed and devour enemies, savaging them and moving on after each heart has been consumed - there is little of interest beyond the consumption of this organ, and they swiftly move on to satisfy a terrible hunger. Massively powerful avatars of the volcanoes, they are hot to touch and unleash heat to slow, tire and burn their foes. They cause massive fear in any that lays eyes upon them, causing horses to buck, men to melt away in fear and their impact on the field may be measured well beyond their ability to kill and maim.


    SACRED OF THE SUN KING

    The SUn King has always had a household guard; men who joined him inexile, and these are the guards of his open skied palace, resplendent in gold, silver and black. Each pair of this guard'ds number have a strong connection in their hearts; whether lovers, husbands and wives - even twins or brothers and sisters, they are the epitomy of the best thjat the Sun Kingdom can field. Their whole life is devoted to martial and physically perfection, and the pairs that fight are a solid unit and fight as one - usually a defender is nominated and an attacker. The Defender keeps them alive, dealing their own rapid ripostes to enemy strikes, but the other reaps the dead like corn. Striding proudly into war, they are shining in the sunlight - demi-gods they are called by some.

    SUN KINGS SKYHORSE

    The Skyhorse are the most noble fighting force. They are teamed at birth - man and Hippogryff, each unique bonded, able to communicate through simple thought, they are prefection, and truly truly beautiful to behold in flight, noble mount and brazen rider, resplendent in their array, their spirits soar as one. Ever have these warriors screened the location of the SUn Palace, and evermore they have scouted, harassed supply lines and even numbered amongst their own the Sun King himself.


    This is a roster in progress...there are some that will not be included and others that may be proposed later when we get to the real nitty-gritty of the units for factions, and the limits of the engine itself.
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    Was wondering what kind of ranged units the wolfborn will have? Bowmen,crossbowmen,axe throwers?? ALL?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hercules18 View Post
    Was wondering what kind of ranged units the wolfborn will have? Bowmen,crossbowmen,axe throwers?? ALL?????

    Well, they have several skirmish units, some flying warrior-women who have missile attacks, and they have access to destructive magic. SO, I'm not going to fully answer it. They have some to get by with, and their magic is mostly destructive, so you'll have a decent showing. They may be horseless, but they aren't without fangs.

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    Cool Wolfborn.

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    The Wolfborn look like true terrors of the battlefield, very very very nice. + rep

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    cant wait to see the final product!!

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    It will be long time until this mod will be released...Unless some people will join the team!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borissomeone View Post
    The Wolfborn look like true terrors of the battlefield, very very very nice. + rep
    Sweet!

    Thanks...as ever!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hercules18 View Post
    cant wait to see the final product!!
    Me neither

    Quote Originally Posted by Turambar and death View Post
    It will be long time until this mod will be released...Unless some people will join the team!!!
    Well, it's compoletely possible to do it with the team we have already, but of course we would welcome other skilled modders - coders would boost things along I think Unit-wise, I will be back to 80% units 20% text soon, and you know how I work....it's not dismal T

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    WOLFBORN GODLSAYERS = crazy awesome!!!

    amazing work Squeaks




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    Quote Originally Posted by y2day View Post
    WOLFBORN GODLSAYERS = crazy awesome!!!
    I try...don't always succeed, but I give it my best shot...thanks Y2. When people take the time to comment, it's so lovely.

    amazing work Squeaks
    Well, I'm not as fearless as Turambar & Death, not as accomplished as Koultouras in his precision modelling, but I have a biiiiig imagination, and I have some skill with Photoshop, due to the nature of my life and previous work on Magazines and stuff...what's nice about doing this is there are NO restrictions on me, and the whole team has this too - being able to do what you want/think is right is amazing, and everyone loves this.

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    Right...double post...hope no one minds. I promised Ithil's story, and here it is in brief...

    (It is from the novel I wrote and then lost, but this is vastly abridged..trying to get my brain in gear and restrt the story from the beginning.

    THE DEATH OF ITHIL, FRAIL FEATHER OF THE ILDIRI




    The Ildiri have always been present wherever water was. They are irrevocably tied with the air and sky, but there used to be a distinction, before the time when the Aethiri left the sides of their brothers - named Aethiri after they made this disttinction between water and air. The Aethiri were said to have a city that floated above the clouds.


    However, with the advent of man, and the colonisation they began, the Ildiri and other elves gave ground, many of the smaller communities fading back into the deeper regions, where they remained guardians of life. However, the King Iythair, the first Heron King, founded a kingdom called the Kingdom of Herons in the west. Here dwelled many of the Ildiri - tens of thousands, and they made their peace with humanity, offering only that they would stay within these bounds for the price of allies and supporters of the most benevolent humans - the Empire. Under Valerian, a pact was agreed, as was a place in the east in the lakes of Mirytine...the Lake Kingdom.



    The Kingdom of Herons was draped in a mist, a fog, that obscured all entrances to their lands, and would confuse enemies, turning them always back to the edge of the Kingdom, no matter how many times they tried to penetrate, foiling any attempt to map the routes in. This was powerful magic, coiling mists that drained the energy from those that attempted it's passage.


    The Ghaurchlai were the only ones to broach this mist, and they did so in two places...one was the entryway to the Heron Kingdom, one was more secret, but broached all the same, made as a way of passage from the Ildiri Kingdom into the secluded port city of Ereneth.

    The battle between the Ghaur in the south was fierce, and the Heron King's son, the Swan Prince, laid his life and that of his entire host down to summon the Water Phoenix, an ancient Avatar that they had been friends with for thousands of years. The Phoenix exploded in a torrent of water, drowning all in it's path, or crushing in a welt of water; even burning them with the bite of ice. Upon the death of the Prince, the Ghaurchlai's second army broke through, with none to oppose them. As the populace fled, the White Fortress gathered those it could across it's magnificent bridges, but many thousands seemed unsaveable.



    The Princess, the Frail Feather, Ithil, set forth from her court, aided by her few hundred Maidens, warrior healers, and a thousand of the Fort's garrison. They crossed the bridges in solemn grace, to meet the army of the Ghaurchlai, who numbered at least 50 times their own. As the people streamed past her and her host, she advanced, solemnly singing a pean until they met the Ghaur that had come forth in a frenzy. These they cut down, as they were the weakest and less controllable of their kind. As she claimed a hill for her forces, the main Ghaur force advanced to meet her.

    On this hill, the snow drops grew in abandon, and would become mired, drowned in blood that day - ever after they grew red.

    The Ghaur crashed into Ithil's lines, and met defiance and steel, with Ithil in the centre, flanked by her Moon Maidens. Spearmen thronged each side, and the small number of bowmen lined the hill's crest. For two hours the bitter battle was fought, assault after assault beaten by by her host's conviction and their love for the Princess. Something about Ithil made the Ghaurchlai frenzy in desperate assaults, and all the while, her people fled to safety. After the Demon Spawn fell back in dismay, the lines held, but many of the greater brethren of Ghaurchlai walked forth from their throng. Slaughterstars, Baelogres, Vore Angels, the Revenants; all kinds of the worst beasts of nightmare slowly moved to the inevitable slaughter.

    The Ghaur hit the front lines of Ildiri, and their ranks crumpled, bent, then resurged to hold the position they would soon die in. As the Moon Maidens fell in droves, the Spearmen became isolated from Ithil, whilst she sang what was said to be the most beautiful song ever sung. All eyes turned to her in lust, and she moved amongst her Maidens, as the Spearmen fell silent. As her words changed, the survivors melted away, ordered to save their own lives, and the Ghaur did not oppose them in this.

    Revenants fell upon her maidens, but they fought them to a standstill, for only the best of her warriors remained. One after another, the Ghaur assaulted her lines, even as she sang and cut down all of the beasts sent against her. True light shone from her very soul and her voice was joyous. Then a shadow fell upon her, as her lines buckled and were forced from her side. A Slaughterstar bent over her, hunched and deformed, the light of stars in it hungry maw. Ithil met it blow for blow, and her clothing became slick with blood, until her blade shattered and she sank to her knees. She remained defiant, and as the Slaughterstar pulled her up to devour her, she drove her brokan blade in it's face again and again, even as he tore her apart. Upon the moment of her death, the Slaughterstar fell, lifelss, savagely burnt by her purity, and a thousand Swallows streamed from the sky to gather her body, to take this last indignity from the expectant Ghaurchlai.

    Even the stars did not shine that night, and the Kingdom of Herons lay silent, save for the weeping of all that was good.



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    A noob appears and is confused: Is this based on a novel or whatever? If not then i feel quite amazed! If yes then i´ll probaly still feel amazed but less confused...

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    A noob appears and is confused:
    FIGHT ITEM or RUN?

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