Eternal Jihad

[Miroslav Klose]

Well, I'm currently playing a campaign with the Basileia ton Romaion, and I'm in turn 56. Took Southern Italy, Sicily, Anatolia, Balkans etc, what everyone does when playing with them.

However, there has been a jihad since turn 18 (!) against, of course, the peril of the east, Constantinople. That's right, this jihad is going on for 38 turns. So far, I've destroyed 39.5 stacks (I've been counting -_-). When does a jihad end, except when the targeted city is taken?

[Serbian Hussar]

When all participants are dead. Assassins might help

[Miroslav Klose]

When all participants are dead. Assassins might help

Ah. So I must destroy the Moors, the Seljuks, the Fatimids and the Kwarezhmians ( the last three have a huge evil alliance, forming an almost inpenetrable front in the east... although I sent some armies to Alexandria).

Well, thanks fro the tip anyway

[PerXX]

Ah. So I must destroy the Moors, the Seljuks, the Fatimids and the Kwarezhmians ( the last three have a huge evil alliance, forming an almost inpenetrable front in the east... although I sent some armies to Alexandria).

Well, thanks fro the tip anyway

You don't have to eliminate them entirely.
When a jihad is called, generals have 10 turns to sign up. After these 10 turns, no more generals can sign up. The jihad will end when either the target is taken, or all generals that signed up are dead. It might take a while for all the generals to reach the target, but you won't have any more signing up after the first 10 turns.

[Gogolometro]

Dont show mercy, kill all prisoniers. Go with mounted acritae to general kill. Atack with multiple stacks, sourrund for no escape. This will make the jihadist generals to be depleted. Or hire 20 assasins and start exploring their hideouts.

[ziserman]

Ah. So I must destroy the Moors, the Seljuks, the Fatimids and the Kwarezhmians ( the last three have a huge evil alliance, forming an almost inpenetrable front in the east... although I sent some armies to Alexandria).

Well, thanks fro the tip anyway

By all participants he meant the generals that have joined the Jihad, not the entire factions.

[Dahoota]

Its probably because FM's have joined it from very far away (I assume all the Muslim factions joined?)

Especially in the case of the Moors where it can take them forever to get through Europe as they get stopped every time they run into an army or city they couldn't see at the start of the turn. Toggle FOW and find out.

Ah. So I must destroy the Moors, the Seljuks, the Fatimids and the Kwarezhmians

Lol you only need to destroy the Jihadist family member from those factions, not the whole faction. Ouch, if they have allied together destroying them will be no mean feat.

[Miroslav Klose]

By all participants he meant the generals that have joined the Jihad, not the entire factions.

Ah... that way... *facepalm*

Ah well, after 5 turns of no evil Jihad stacks entering Roman lands, the Jihad ended...

Especially in the case of the Moors where it can take them forever to get through Europe as they get stopped every time they run into an army or city they couldn't see at the start of the turn. Toggle FOW and find out.

NEIN! I will never cheat! Luckily, they were getting slaughtered by the Sicilians, who had to flee from Italia...

[Dahoota]

NEIN! I will never cheat! Luckily, they were getting slaughtered by the Sicilians, who had to flee from Italia...

Really? I'm a bit of a purist too, but there are two instances when I use the console - occasionally toggle_fow to see how the world is going and if I get a CTD after winning a major or battle that I don't want to re-fight.

Good to hear there Jihad finally ended. One positive it going for so long I guess is that it makes unlikely to be any more than one Jihad (if that) before 1300 which I think is the cut off point for crusades and jihads.

[No luck Mamluk]

Ah. So I must destroy the Moors, the Seljuks, the Fatimids and the Kwarezhmians ( the last three have a huge evil alliance, forming an almost inpenetrable front in the east... although I sent some armies to Alexandria).

Well, thanks fro the tip anyway

evil alliance.

[Morbius Sire]

It will help if you kill all the jihading generals[finding them by spies and doing the deed by assassins.] at least when they come close to your borders

Good luck!

[napoleonic]

40 stacks jihad? I never had that many

[Hadrian I]

Well, I'm currently playing a campaign with the Basileia ton Romaion, and I'm in turn 56. Took Southern Italy, Sicily, Anatolia, Balkans etc, what everyone does when playing with them.

However, there has been a jihad since turn 18 (!) against, of course, the peril of the east, Constantinople. That's right, this jihad is going on for 38 turns. So far, I've destroyed 39.5 stacks (I've been counting -_-). When does a jihad end, except when the targeted city is taken?

Good, god man! I hate the Jihads, is their not enouth salt to cover the whole middle east, like the Romans did with Carthage?

[thespaniard]

Good, god man! I hate the Jihads, is their not enouth salt to cover the whole middle east, like the Romans did with Carthage?

but jihads LOVE you and btw what mod were u playing?

[Hadrian I]

but jihads LOVE you and btw what mod were u playing?

The Most Serene Republic Of Genoa. VH/VH RR BYGR IV. Stainless Steel 6.3 + Historical Settlements & Titles + Early Campaign + Half a year per turn + Longer assimilation + Crossbow men can shoot 90 degress angles.

What about you? thespaniard.

[thespaniard]

The Most Serene Republic Of Genoa. VH/VH RR BYGR IV. Stainless Steel 6.3 + Historical Settlements & Titles + Early Campaign + Half a year per turn + Crossbow men can shoot 90 degress angels.

What about you? thespaniard.

huh oh the mod i was asking about was Almighty Tukker Führer's and i play third age SS 6.1 and thera the great legacy. But i mod gunpowder to come in at turn 1-5 in SS

[popovic]

+ Crossbow men can shoot 90 degress angels.

Did you mod that in? If so, how did you do it?

Just point me to a thread...

[Hadrian I]

Did you mod that in? If so, how did you do it?

Just point me to a thread...

Yes, I modified it myself. Its in the SEGA/Medieval II Total War/mods/SS6.3/data/descr_projectile

And apperantly I only modified it to an 80 degress angle, but remeber to do it with all crossbows.

projectile crossbow_bolt
effect crossbow_arrows_new_set
end_effect bolt_impact_ground_set
end_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_package_effect bolt_impact_wall_set
end_shatter_effect bolt_impact_ground_set
end_shatter_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_shatter_package_effect bolt_impact_wall_set
damage 0
radius 0.075
mass 0.1
accuracy_vs_units 0.0625
min_angle -80 <--- Here.
max_angle 80 <--- Here.
velocity 50 55
display aimed
effect_only

Also quiet a few more men, from the castle walls can shoot down now, well mostly the whole front row can now,
but if the enemy decides to hug the wall they can't so it's still realistic.
But I do believe it will requiere you, to start a new campaign, just for safety reasons.

[Serbian Hussar]

I found an interesting reading on the topic of jihad: http://www.historyofjihad.org/serbia.html

[diez]

after beating their stacks,chase them down with horse archers and mount javs to kill them