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    Default Gaddafi willing to go according to the French

    Hmmh, this is interesting.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14127804

    "The Libyan regime is sending messengers everywhere, to Turkey, to New York, to Paris" offering to discuss Col Gaddafi's exit, French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe told French radio.

    But he added that such contacts did not constitute negotiations.
    Well, what do you guys think? Surprising or no?
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    It's a ploy. Gaddafi will go yes. But on the condion of his son inheriting, unless he's lost what little remains of his sanity, and if he has, then he'll change his mind.
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    Go where, the best he can hope is a year or two before a trial. He still has an ICC warrant hanging over him.
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    Default Re: Gaddafi willing to go according to the French

    But he added that such contacts did not constitute negotiations.
    What if the terms of Qaddafi's departure are unacceptable? If he is unwilling to negotiate, it's usually a sign he is going to propose something drastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw2xboxplayer View Post
    What if the terms of Qaddafi's departure are unacceptable? If he is unwilling to negotiate, it's usually a sign he is going to propose something drastic.
    To be honest, Gaddafi is in no position to demand anything ridiculous. He know's he's slowly being backed into a corner. but if by some lunacy that he does demand terms that are ridiculous it'll be the end of his chance to get out alive before the Rebels reach Tripoli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Edain View Post
    To be honest, Gaddafi is in no position to demand anything ridiculous. He know's he's slowly being backed into a corner. but if by some lunacy that he does demand terms that are ridiculous it'll be the end of his chance to get out alive before the Rebels reach Tripoli.
    Hopefully you are right, and Gaddafi's demands will be reasonable.

    However, the man is a crazed, bloodthirsty tyrant to the end. He is desperate and there's no telling what he's going to do or demand.


    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel of the 32nd Hoof View Post
    It's werid, but I want him to stay.
    And why would that be, so he can kill more innocent civilians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw2xboxplayer View Post
    And why would that be, so he can kill more innocent civilians?
    It would be because, I think, we don't know for sure who the good guys even are in this conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    It would be because, I think, we don't know for sure who the good guys even are in this conflict.
    True enough, and as Colonel of the 32nd Hoof said, do we even belong in Lybia deciding Gaddafi's fate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw2xboxplayer View Post
    Hopefully you are right, and Gaddafi's demands will be reasonable.

    However, the man is a crazed, bloodthirsty tyrant to the end. He is desperate and there's no telling what he's going to do or demand.




    And why would that be, so he can kill more innocent civilians?
    Because he a character, and no one's stopping them from leaving, it's an open border.

    And also Because we had no right to interfere in the first place, althoghu Gaddafi should have imposed Marshal law before shooting Rioters, But according to his son Who was on RT, it was not Ordered by Gaddafi.
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    It's werid, but I want him to stay.
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    Default Re: Gaddafi willing to go according to the French

    Don't think he is willing to go. He doesn't have many places to go IMO.

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    Doubt he'd be stupid enough to trust the West on this. Most likely he'll just formally "retire" and West would be able to stop bombing Libya without losing face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Joe View Post
    Doubt he'd be stupid enough to trust the West on this. Most likely he'll just formally "retire" and West would be able to stop bombing Libya without losing face.
    What are you talking about? Do you mean he would still be leading the country? If not, then I dont understand what not to trust.



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    Quote Originally Posted by charles the hammer View Post
    What are you talking about? Do you mean he would still be leading the country? If not, then I dont understand what not to trust.
    I mean he would step away from power de-jure and let someone he trusts to rule instead, while most likely keeping control de-facto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Joe View Post
    I mean he would step away from power de-jure and let someone he trusts to rule instead, while most likely keeping control de-facto.
    That is what he currently does...

    He is currently the de-facto leader but he gave de-jure power to a figurehead decades ago.
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    Doesn't surprise me at all.

    The rebels are banging his walls at the very moment.

    Gaddafi knows that if they get him, they'll flay him and burn him on a pile of tires, most probably. Or just shoot him, if he's lucky.

    I suppose it's a sign of desperation coming from our dear old friend, perfectly understandable given his current situation.


    I say let him sit in Libya and die, make him an example in the eyes of the world what happens to those who do not cooperate
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    Isn't his tribe fiercely loyal to him? Who's to say that he should even be removed from power? France? Don't make me laugh, they were leading the charge in the 'No War for Oil' crusade 8 years ago. Libya should be split, if anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Border Patrol View Post
    Isn't his tribe fiercely loyal to him? Who's to say that he should even be removed from power? France? Don't make me laugh, they were leading the charge in the 'No War for Oil' crusade 8 years ago. Libya should be split, if anything.
    hurr durr frence white flag lol xD

    leading the charge in the 'No War for Oil' crusade 8 years ago. Libya should be split, if anything.
    what does that have to do with anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
    hurr durr frence white flag lol xD


    what does that have to do with anything
    Yes, that was totally a French World War 2 joke...

    France led the charge against 'US Imperialism' in Iraq 8 years ago, hence the 'no war for oil' bit, and now they're going into Libya for precisely that reason. A bit hypocritical, no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubh the dark View Post
    Don't want to shake your world-view or anything but France has 4,000 troops in Afghanistan, 5 of whom were killed and four seriously injured today.

    The initial concern over the wars, was whether or not they were legal in international law.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/as...171566604.html
    And I don't mean to shake your worldview or anything but Afghanistan has no oil and has seen US troops on the ground since before 8 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Border Patrol View Post
    Yes, that was totally a French World War 2 joke...

    France led the charge against 'US Imperialism' in Iraq 8 years ago, hence the 'no war for oil' bit, and now they're going into Libya for precisely that reason. A bit hypocritical, no?
    The rebels call our help and there is a UN resolution in Lybia contrary to Iraq, this operation isn't unilateral unlike Iraq where US invented WMD to justify their war.

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