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    OK....its 96 BC. Ive 9 legions away in Gaul. Carthage is destroyed. the Iberian pennisula is secured and quiet. Ive got a foothold in Asia minor and green/yellow happiness in nearly all settlements then 75% of my empire rebels in one turn!!...Damn you Tone! anyway to keep this rebellion form triggering so large?..seems to affect all settlement with small troop nubers. Even Rome! Curse the gods!

    numbers, not nubers.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnieangel View Post
    Any way to keep this rebellion form triggering so large?
    Yes but sadly script changes only take effect with a new campaign so you'll have to deal with it.

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    was thinking about going back a couple of saved games to increase troop count in those cities to see if it makes a difference. This took me by complete surprise!...havent seen anyone discussing it how massive this rebellion was.
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    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnieangel View Post
    was thinking about going back a couple of saved games to increase troop count in those cities to see if it makes a difference.
    Afaik the rebellion is a little different each time it triggers so going back to an earlier save might help if you want to try and avoid Rome (the city) going rogue. However the the rebellion is going to be huge every time.

    Iirc it triggers once you hold 85 regions so save in time and keep loading until you get the desired result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnieangel View Post
    OK....its 96 BC. Ive 9 legions away in Gaul. Carthage is destroyed. the Iberian pennisula is secured and quiet. Ive got a foothold in Asia minor and green/yellow happiness in nearly all settlements then 75% of my empire rebels in one turn!!...Damn you Tone! anyway to keep this rebellion form triggering so large?..seems to affect all settlement with small troop nubers. Even Rome! Curse the gods!
    I have had this experience ...

    Quote Originally Posted by century x View Post
    This sounds like alot of fun to be honest.
    It's tremendous fun. The key is surviving is to make sure - during all the turns leading up to the Second Rebellion - that you balance your building and your economy, and spread recruitment areas among the larger urban areas on the map.

    If you develop key cities (for me, the ones that already have merged military/economic at the start of the game ... like Syracuse), then when the rebellion hits, you always have a place to recruit from ... once your economy stabilizes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean=A=Luc View Post
    Afaik the rebellion is a little different each time it triggers so going back to an earlier save might help if you want to try and avoid Rome (the city) going rogue. However the the rebellion is going to be huge every time.

    Iirc it triggers once you hold 85 regions so save in time and keep loading until you get the desired result.
    You can actually get a "smaller" or easier rebellion. And if I recall, the rebellion occurs in randomly selected geographic groups, so it is a bit different every time.

    @ johnnieangel: Have fun!

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    Just like armageddon romen style , right?
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    This sounds like alot of fun to be honest.
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    It triggers when you reach 85 regions, and it's different every time, but Italy ALWAYS rebels.
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    Thanks gentlemen....@ century. Ive been milling it around in the brain sionce last night and tactically, it should present quite a challange. It'll be nice to come out on the other side of this with silver or gold chevrons for the legions that survive...
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnieangel View Post
    Thanks gentlemen....@ century. Ive been milling it around in the brain sionce last night and tactically, it should present quite a challange. It'll be nice to come out on the other side of this with silver or gold chevrons for the legions that survive...
    A roman civil war is one of the most challenging things you can ever do. Re claiming all those settlements you had conquered is a hassle but you come out stronger. Your generals will have so many stars, experience, and your legions will be unstoppable.
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    Survival of the fittest --- That how u train legions..........
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    Thanks Dani. will keep you all updated on the turmoil as it unfolds. thank you all for the input. Roma Victa!
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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    You just wished that Rome would be defeated. I think what you're trying to say is Roma Victrix (Rome the Victorious), or Roma Invicta (Rome the Undefeated).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rory o'kane View Post
    I think what you're trying to say is Roma Victrix (Rome the Victorious), or Roma Invicta (Rome the Undefeated).
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    Cheers Rory.. I did botch that didnt I.....ahem...Roma Vitrix..
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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    I play the Belgae so Roma Victa

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    Vulgar latin can be fun!
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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    It's called Vulgar Latin for a reason, Pleb.

    I'm just joking.

    Oh, and RandomSarmartian, you can "Roma Victa" all you like, because the Belgae (both on the continent and in Britain - they settled around the area of modern Winchester if I recall correctly), were conquered by the Romans IRL.
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    they also settled in Ireland and were a pain in the a$$ for the romans and never got conquered but actually invaded roman britain quiet abit so

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    Well...after 2 1/2 years of economic instability and rebels ravaging the western half of the empire, Legio II Augvsta and Legio XIII Gemini took heavy losses including losing an entire army of axillaries. Legio VIII Augvsta and IX Hispanesis secured strongholds in Gaul.The rebellion in Greece brought the attention of the Macedonian and Flavia Felix with axillaries from Asia minor which brough some semblance of stability to the region with minimal loss of Roman life. on the Itailian Penninsula Rome and Capua were reclaimed after Legio VII Claudai Pia Fidelis crossed the Rubicon. Three letcherous, mutinous legions scouring the coutryside still remain at large. no doubt facing decimation or worse.
    And now a word from our sponsor...Roma Vitrix! ( or Victa if your Belgae...:-)
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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