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Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
Fought a battle against HRE in my denmark campaign just now where the HRE had only 1 unit of crossbowmen but I had 2 units of norse archers in the fight and as soon as my archers got within range, the crossbowmen also opened fire on my archers as well.
If this is the case, I can only imagine the range upgraded crossbowmen have. :/
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Re: Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
Norse archers have poor quality bows, so they have short range. I think Turkish archers and English longbowmen have a much greater range.
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Re: Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
Correct.
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Re: Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
Longbow's are the ultimate ranged unit as the timurids just discovered.
I stuck my main assault stack on a cliff and took out the entire timurid nation in 1 battle
My longbows range was so long that they were firing before the elephant artillery was in range plus i had 3 ballistas of my own on the cliff
Timurids never stood a fighting chance they were having arrows pored onto there heads from the moment the match started i massacared some 23000 timurids for the loss of less then 200 of my own
My archers and bal's ran out of ammo but by that point they only had about 6000 men left including men still to come onto the field.
They had to run uphill past routing units over mountains of there own dead just to reach a tiny little gap allowing men higher up the hill defended by 5 fresh and very encouraged units of heavy spear infantry with 7 chevrons each
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Re: Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
The Norse Archers use bows that are supposed to withstand the cold, ever-shifting climate of the Norselands, with the downside that they lack in range.
But the range of Norse Archers in the game is pretty much the same as the standard range of bows and crossbows alike in the game - missile units with longer range than usual have it written in their "abilities at glance".
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Re: Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
There are only two or three different ranges for bows.
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Re: Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
That's Correct. There are only two ranges for archers: 120 and 160. Therefore, Longbowman has the same range as Mongol Infantry, for example. And Elephants obviously outrange all archers, subject to any AI stupidity:
Elephant Artillery: 350
Musketeer, Camel Gunner: 180
Elite Archers (Retinue Longbowman, Janissary Archer, Adventurier, Pavisse Crossbowman, Mongol Infantry): 160
Normal Archers (Peasant Archer, Crossbow Militia, Norse Archers): 120
Horse Archers (all types): 120
Arquebusier, gunners on non-artillery elephant: 120
Hand Gunners: 95
Reiters: 45
The ultimate ranged unit you can make is the Camel Gunner, of course.
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Re: Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
Where do Mounted Thunder Braves fit in?
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Re: Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
With camel gunners.Originally Posted by Double A
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Re: Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
IIRC they wield muskets, so 180. Easy way to see would be them outranging bows, as the arquebus has the same range as the standard bow
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Re: Peasant Crossbowmen same firing range as Norse archers?
Mounted Thunder Braves and Dragoons are both mounted musketeers, so their range is 180. The Dragoon outclasses the camel gunner, but in the original game, the Camel Gunner was the top ranged unit.
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