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  1. July 10, 2011, 01:29 PM #1
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    ... to Saudi Arabia. Incidently the new Leo2A7 version with system upgrades for urban combat. Yippie to be an officially morally bankrupt government! Did they miss the news in the region for the past 6 months? First Lybia, now this, what the heck is riding those idiots?

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  2. July 10, 2011, 01:31 PM #2
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    Well the USA just gave them Egypt, so at least you're demanding money in return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    Well the USA just gave them Egypt, so at least you're demanding money in return.
    As far as I know we gave tanks to Greece not Egypt.
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    Something has to compensate all the money being thrown at Greece, why not do it by selling tanks? Real "VOC" mentality right there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mangerman View Post
    Something has to compensate all the money being thrown at Greece, why not do it by selling tanks? Real "VOC" mentality right there!
    I knew that would come up


    Anyway, I find this morally dubious. Kind of hard to take potential German criticism of anyone on such issues seriously anymore.
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    Well it has to be done to keep the oil flowing I guess....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Mov View Post
    Well it has to be done to keep the oil flowing I guess....
    Germany gets 2,6% of its oil from Saudi-Arabia.

    Anyway, its indeed morally bankrupt and also political self-mutilation.
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    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn777 View Post
    Germany gets 2,6% of its oil from Saudi-Arabia.
    World economy is inter-connected between nations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Mov View Post
    World economy is inter-connected between nations.
    Like they desperately need this particular German tank.

    Its about the chosen few involved and their bank-accounts.
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    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn777 View Post
    Like they desperately need this particular German tank.

    Its about the chosen few involved and their bank-accounts.
    I'm talking about the flow of oil. Germany may get a small percentage (though still getting some) but the steady flow of oil from Saudi Arabia will undoubtedly affect the US, for example, and through that other economies such that of Germany.
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    All I see is: 1.5B € for 200 tanks. That's a lot of money.
    When will the tanks start arriving to Saudi Arabia? Also with 200 of these, Saudi Arabia could very well defend against Persia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    All I see is: 1.5B € for 200 tanks. That's a lot of money.
    When will the tanks start arriving to Saudi Arabia? Also with 200 of these, Saudi Arabia could very well defend against Persia.
    Yeah, sure, like 200 tanks are going to protect them from some ancient empire.

    I just don't really understand why they need tanks upgraded for urban warfare. If anyone invades, they can use the vast expanse of the desert for their advantage.
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    Well, it's not like they're going to use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    Well, it's not like they're going to use them.
    They will definitely use them. The urban combat package fits exactly what they need to support the kinds of CT operations they conduct. They would also be handy in places like Bahrain, that count on Saudi Arabia in that respect.

    Saudi Arabia is still the worst place in the world to be caught if you are a terrorist. They get the job done.

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    The hypocrisy of the Western World you see. If Saudi Arabia started murdering its own citizens with these very same tanks, the Western World would intervene.
    Selling someone tanks for self defense in a hotly contested region of the world (see Iran), is not a license to kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    Well, it's not like they're going to use them.
    well they are using against the revolting masses and shoot the hell up if theres one just in case...... and also the shells don't forget the shells
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    Well, it's not like they're going to use them.
    Except for throttling protests both inside and in neighboring countries...

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    Leopards in the desert, the thought of it with them doing maneuvers with smoke columns as they roll by, a tank company here of Leopards then another company of Saudi Abrams! Oh I want to see this! (I am having a hard on.) All we need know is a Saudi prince who has cash to burn and is interested in buying T-80s, just for the hell of it.

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    How do I get my hands on one of those badboys? Traffic is becoming a real pain on weekends.
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    You can probably buy one from the Netherlands, they are taking theirs out of service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin Rommel View Post
    Leopards in the desert, the thought of it with them doing maneuvers with smoke columns as they roll by, a tank company here of Leopards then another company of Saudi Abrams! Oh I want to see this! (I am having a hard on.) All we need know is a Saudi prince who has cash to burn and is interested in buying T-80s, just for the hell of it.
    There were plans to buy 150 t-90s from Russia but i guess Saudi Arabia went for the Leopards instead...for good reason to, as the t-90 has nothing on a Leopard 2a7
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