Total Holy War,Crusade & Jihad

[dannyalex]

Hi

I am thinking change the victory conditions,for Crusades Kingdoms Expansion,for my game.

You think,maybe all Factions must target all other for complete domination,should i put the Byzantine Empire destroy all other factions,or add beside outlive Seljuk Turks ,outlive also the Crusaders States and then even Egypt?

i waiting your ideas,based in your love for the game and your knowledge for the current era

The current (vanilla) V.C now is:

Ayyubid Egypt

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hold_regions Cairo 30 Constantinople 10 Jerusalem 10 Krak_de_Chevaliers 10 Acre 10
take_regions 25
outlive jerusalem
short_campaign hold_regions
take_regions 15
outlive jerusalem

Seljuq Turks

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hold_regions Baghdad 30 Antioch 10 Constantinople 10 Krak_de_Chevaliers 10 Jerusalem 10
take_regions 25
outlive antioch
short_campaign hold_regions
take_regions 15
outlive antioch

Principality of Antioch

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hold_regions Krak_de_Chevaliers 30 Antioch 10 Constantinople 10 Baghdad 10 Edessa 10
take_regions 25
outlive turks
short_campaign hold_regions
take_regions 15
outlive turks

Kingdom of Jerusalem

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hold_regions Jerusalem 30 Baghdad 10 Limassol 10 Cairo 10 Tripoli 10
take_regions 25
outlive egypt
short_campaign hold_regions
take_regions 15
outlive egypt

Byzantine Empire

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hold_regions Constantinople 30 Ankara 10 Baghdad 10 Antioch 10 Alexandria 10
take_regions 25
outlive turks
short_campaign hold_regions
take_regions 15
outlive turks

[smthhappy]

well for muslims you must destroy the christian factions and if you are a christian you must destroy the muslim faction

[dannyalex]

Christians vs Muslims ...classic battles,what about Egypt vs Turks?in reality they fought between them but finally Turks won and Arabs/egyptians become member of their Ottoman Empire

[smthhappy]

they fought but after destroing their cristian foes so you can change the victory conditons to capture all regions and destroy all factions so first you will hande the cristians then your former ally Turkey/Egypy . But the crusader factions should destroy only the Muslims and Byzantine Empire. In reality the Principality of Antioch is vassal to the Kingdom of Jerusalem

[dannyalex]

think i am close to go for all vs all option so no one has complain

[Aeratus]

This campaign is pretty inaccurate to history, so further modifications wouldn't be much of a stretch from that point.

[smthhappy]

no no no the crusaders must not fight each other !!!!

[dannyalex]

one thing is sure that the byzantines dont like the crusaders

@aeratus give us some tips ,so the campaign follow history or alernative history

[Aeratus]

one thing is sure that the byzantines dont like the crusaders

@aeratus give us some tips ,so the campaign follow history or alernative history

The campaign starts at 1174, but Antioch was a vassal of the Byzantine Empire from the 1160s to 1180. Antioch was basically a part of the Byzantine Empire because the Kingdom of Jerusalem and other crusader forces were too weak to protect Antioch. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Byzantium1173.JPG - map at year 1173)

The Turks within Turkey and the Turks outside of Turkey were not the same faction back then.

However, Egypt and the Turks outside of Turkey were the same faction. Technically, Egypt was a vassal to the Turks, but Saladin declared himself to have succeed Nuradin (who died in 1174, the first year of the campaign), and eventually conquered the Turkish territories that did not subject to his authority.

Anyways, the whole campaign map is inaccurate. But in any case, it's accurate to have Egypt fight the Turks. The Byzantines were generally friendly or allied to Antioch.