Priest recruitment limit.

[skofuz]

I couldn't find a thread about this anywhere so I decided to start a new one to confirm some of my theories regarding the priest recruitment limit. I always make sure I have the max amount of priests, which is why I always get annoyed when I check my settlements and see that I have one or more priests available.

So after a while I notice that when I build an Abbey I can recruit an additional priest. I'm not entirely sure about Cathedrals but I'm fairly sure you get an additional priest when you build a Huge Cathedral. Also, it seems to me that whenever a cardinal is promoted it frees up a priest slot.

I want to hear your experiences regarding this, maybe someone can shed some more light on this case. I know it's a little bit trivial, but if you're like me and get obsessed with every little detail in games it just can't be helped

One last question, does troops without a general or family member, placed in a fort have a chance to rebel?

[Sulfurion Blackfyre]

Regarding your first question I think that's basically it, altough I've only noticed that you can have a priest for each city as long as you have a church/chapel. But I think abbeys allow you to have another priest. Keep in mind that this can be sometimes confusing especially when you have a large territory because once in a while priests become heretics without one even noticing.

As for your second question I don't think they rebel, as in, become rebels naturally. But as with all "captains" they can be bribed pretty easily.

[tudor93]

One last question, does troops without a general or family member, placed in a fort have a chance to rebel?

no, they never rebel if they are in a fort even if they are not comanded by a FM


and for the first question, IIRC it doesn't matter if it is an abbey, a small church etc. ; you get a priest available for recruiting for every religious building you have; for example I have 2 castles (each with a small chapel built) and one city with a small church, this means I can recruit 3 priests, if I upgrade my small churc and make it a church I'll have 4 priests available for recruiting, If I upgrade the 2 small chapels into chapels then I'll have 6 priests available for recruiting, and so on ... correct me if I'm wrong

[_Elysium_]

I've been wondering about this for a while, and I thought I'd figured it out.

and for the first question, IIRC it doesn't matter if it is an abbey, a small church etc. ; you get a priest available for recruiting for every religious building you have; for example I have 2 castles (each with a small chapel built) and one city with a small church, this means I can recruit 3 priests, if I upgrade my small churc and make it a church I'll have 4 priests available for recruiting, If I upgrade the 2 small chapels into chapels then I'll have 6 priests available for recruiting, and so on ... correct me if I'm wrong

Would this be the same with the other agents then? If I had 6 merchants available from having 6 settlements with Grain Exchenges, would I be able to recruit all of those Merchants in a single settlement?

[tudor93]

I've been wondering about this for a while, and I thought I'd figured it out.



Would this be the same with the other agents then? If I had 6 merchants available from having 6 settlements with Grain Exchenges, would I be able to recruit all of those Merchants in a single settlement?

yep
but I'm not sure about those things, a veteran player could confirm

[skofuz]

no, they never rebel if they are in a fort even if they are not comanded by a FM


and for the first question, IIRC it doesn't matter if it is an abbey, a small church etc. ; you get a priest available for recruiting for every religious building you have; for example I have 2 castles (each with a small chapel built) and one city with a small church, this means I can recruit 3 priests, if I upgrade my small churc and make it a church I'll have 4 priests available for recruiting, If I upgrade the 2 small chapels into chapels then I'll have 6 priests available for recruiting, and so on ... correct me if I'm wrong

Hmm I'm not sure about castle chapels but I don't think you get another priest when you upgrade from a small church to church in towns. I think it skips one tier like this;

Small Church - 1 Priest
Church - 1 Priest
Abbey - 2 Priests
Cathedral - 2 Priests
Huge Cathedral - 3 Priests

and so from what you're saying about chapels you get a total of 2 priests from a castle that has a chapel.

[SoulBlade]

Same for the other type of agents. Upgrading the building increases the limit for the agent.

[John Doe]

The merchants number is capped, it's one per city with a market. It does not increase if you build bigger markets.

I think you can get as many assassin/spy/diplomat as you want, no upper limit as far as I know.

[SoulBlade]

The merchants number is capped, it's one per city with a market. It does not increase if you build bigger markets.

I think you can get as many assassin/spy/diplomat as you want, no upper limit as far as I know.

Same for the other type of agents. Upgrading the building increases the limit for the agent.

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Cheat and find it out by yourself.

[John Doe]

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Cheat and find it out by yourself.

Start a game as HRE, you'll be able to recruit a diplomat every single turn in Frankfurt, and it's the only city you have with a town hall.

Build one brothel somewhere and you'll be able to recruit a spy every turn in the city where you built it.

Higher level building only gives better trait to your spy or diplomats. There is no cap on how many spies/diplomats and assassins you can recruit, as long as you get the building to recruit them.

[_Elysium_]

The merchants number is capped, it's one per city with a market. It does not increase if you build bigger markets.

I think you can get as many assassin/spy/diplomat as you want, no upper limit as far as I know.

Thanks for the confirmation.

[Re_Minder]

The merchants number is capped, it's one per city with a market. It does not increase if you build bigger markets.

I think you can get as many assassin/spy/diplomat as you want, no upper limit as far as I know.

BS. You get as many diplomats as you have town halls and as many spies as you have brothels.

I wouldn't even bet that the last level of market doesn't increase the limit of merchants to 2, but I guess I should check that. Though other things I wrote, I know for certain.

[tudor93]

BS. You get as many diplomats as you have town halls and as many spies as you have brothels.

no, you can create as many spies/diplomats as you wish

The merchants number is capped, it's one per city with a market. It does not increase if you build bigger markets.

hmmm, I'll try this but I'm pretty sure you are wrong

[Diamond]

Playing as Portugal, I pretty much control the Papacy because I'm always spamming the Moors' (muslim) lands with priests, it's pretty awesome

I'm pretty sure it's only one priest per city.

[crzyrndm]

1 for churches and small churches
2 for abbey
3 for the huge cathedral atleast