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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...byan-town.html
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Just what we need in Libya right?
Praepositus
Sudanese Army seizes territory in Southern Libya.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...byan-town.html
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Just what we need in Libya right?
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Re: Sudanese Army seizes territory in Southern Libya.
Makes me wonder what Sudan's leader is thinking, or if he even knows, though the latter is unlikely.
Worst part of trying to express a point is when someone says what you said better and gets praised.
Rex Regum
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I'd rather have Qaddafi's Lybia in Africa than Sudan.
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Comes Rei Militaris
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What is this? EU3?
I think the Sudanese army is protecting the rebels.
Last edited by MathiasOfAthens; July 02, 2011 at 06:26 PM.
Comes Domesticorum
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Victoria 2; Sudan may receive a random event that allow Sudan to acquire a Libya province without infamy.Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens
Dux Limitis
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Sudan better watch out, i am sure NATO won't mind "accidently" hitting Sudan army forces.
A Place of Greater Safety
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Here's the paragraph in the article that makes me think this is a move by Sudan to protect the rebels:
I'll greet this with cautious optimism, and hope that Sudan doesn't disappoint me. If more neighbouring African states start to protect the rebels then hopefully Gaddafi will see the absolute futility of the corner he's been backed into."The Gaddafi army was coming in and taking out the oilfields every time the rebels start pumping oil. They've dismantled the fields quite carefully so the rebels need security down there. Clearly there needs to be tribal support but the Sudanese could make it too risky for Gaddafi's intervention as well."
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Comes Rei Militaris
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I saw the same thing. Seems plausible.
Primicerius
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Why do you support the rebels?
Just like the elephant animation, this Carthage scenario is actually in the game, it just has a small percantage factor for showing up, that's all..."we're way way pre-alpha and what that means is there is loads of features not just in terms of the graphics but also in terms of the combat and animations that actually aren't in the game yet.So the final game is actually gonna look way way better than this!” - James Russell, CA
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Dux Limitis
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Because Gadaffi is an oppresive dictator who has murdered innocent people? His government has lost of legitimacy in my eyes. Its a good thing more and more countrys are recognizing the new rebel government instead of Gadaffis.
Comes Domesticorum
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Anyway, in your mean if rebels kill "innocents" they lost their legitimacy too?"There is no such thing as innocence, only varying degrees of guilt." - Adeptus Arbites, Warhammer 40K
Dux Limitis
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Its not really the same thing. Last time i checked no large groups of people were protesting for democracy against the Rebel government. I also haven't heard of the rebel government ordering troops to gun down large numebrs of people, then ordering its airforce to bomb its own people. So sorry, its not the same.
When the rebel governemnt actually starts having tis troops gun down unamred large numbers of peopel who are only protesting for democracy, then i won't consider the rebels the legitimate government of Libya anymore.
Last edited by Vanoi; July 03, 2011 at 09:51 PM.
Primicerius
And the rebels haven't killed innocent civilians either?
While Gadaffi has executed political rivals since he rose to power, they have not surpassed the triple digit figure. Meanwhile, prisoners have probably suffered most by being tortured. The Abu Salim maximum security prison in the 1996 riot is the most severe form of oppresion by the regime that has been publicly acknowledged but Amnesty International estimates only 1,270 prisoners were killed.
Obviously he doesn't respect every-bodies human rights, but he is better than countless other leaders. Do you really expect something better will prop up after the rebel victory?
Please provide evidence of Gadaffi using its airforce? According to Amnesty International there is no evidence of mass killing.ts not really the same thing. Last time i checked no large groups of people were protesting for democracy against the Rebel government. I also haven't heard of the rebel government ordering troops to gun down large numebrs of peopel, then ordering its airforce to bomb its own people. So sorry, its not the same.
When the rebel governemnt actually starts having tis troops gun down unamred large numbers of peopel who are only protesting for democracy, then i won't consider the rebels the legitimate government of Libya anymore.
And does "no large groups of people were protesting for democracy against the Rebel government" not mean practically the whole of Tripoli? Look it up, up to a million protestors got in Tripoli to support Gadaffi. Meanwhile only a few thousand, mostly around 1000 have gathered to protest in Benghazi against the government. How is that comparable??
Last edited by Gertrudius; July 03, 2011 at 09:55 PM. Reason: dp
Just like the elephant animation, this Carthage scenario is actually in the game, it just has a small percantage factor for showing up, that's all..."we're way way pre-alpha and what that means is there is loads of features not just in terms of the graphics but also in terms of the combat and animations that actually aren't in the game yet.So the final game is actually gonna look way way better than this!” - James Russell, CA
Beware of scoundrels
Praepositus
Re: Sudanese Army seizes territory in Southern Libya.
Not to my knowledge if you have some evidence that the council did or ordered it. Unlike old Q the rebels werent all that centralized at the beginning and they are still forming there fighters into a cohesive group, so I wont hold the things that happened at the beginning against them, but that does mean they should not allow things like that to keep happening as they have had sufficent time to centralize to a degree necessary to stop that sort of thing from happening.
Last edited by charles the hammer; July 03, 2011 at 10:06 PM.
Protector Domesticus
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Besides,wasn't Sudan attacked by Gaddafi in the '70s ?I doubt they'll do him any favors today.Probably just looking after their interests,or helping the rebels again out of their interest.
A Place of Greater Safety
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Gaddafi has been at war with Sudan and Chad a couple of times. I hope the Chadians decide to give the rebels a hand, too.
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The Chadians inflicted a hevy defeat on Lybia. Anyway, if rebels win, France will have a friendly ally providing access to the heart of Africa via Chad.
Dux Limitis
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Oh, that was so extremely epic.
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A Place of Greater Safety
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It has the best name of any war, too: The Toyota War.
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Re: Sudanese Army seizes territory in Southern Libya.
When Libyan Army with tanks got owned by a bunch of armed Toyota Pickups
It is indeed epic
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