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    Default Cyprus National Guard and Abusive Treatment for Non Greek Speaking Conscripts

    Training in the Cypriot Army otherwise known as the Cyprus National Guard has been referred to by many as Hell on Earth. But for non Greek speaking conscripts, hell is a major understatement.

    It is unusual for non Greek speaking conscripts to finish their tour of duty in the Cyprus National Guard. Many conscripts commit suicide due to the extreme mental and physical abuse. Most are discharged due to being hospitalized too many times for life threatening injuries inflicted upon them by their commanders and/or fellow conscripts for not following orders. Orders are always barked in Greek and there is no tolerance for disobedience or delay.

    The penalties for not following orders are often taken out on the entire platoon which gives plenty of incentive to the rest of the platoon to get even with the conscript that failed.

    It is not uncommon for these non Greek speaking conscripts to suffer broken ribs, broken cheek bones, broken limbs, mutilated genitals, or even death. Most injuries are the result of being struck by rifle butts, night sticks or other hard objects.

    When a conscript is hospitalized for injuries sustained during training, they are returned to duty after they are determined to be medically fit for service. After a conscript has been hospitalized in for the tenth time during their training, the conscript may be discharged early.

    Time spent in the hospital is not simply time off or a way to pass time and avoid duty. For each week spent in the hospital out of service, one month is added to the conscripts required twenty six months.

    Human rights violations have been reported to the UN countless times over the past few years. The European Court of Human Rights has given the clear message that the Cyprus is in violation of the EU declaration of human rights.

    The camp where the worst abuses have been found is the KEN camp in Paphos.

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    Default Re: Cyprus National Guard and Abusive Treatment for Non Greek Speaking Conscripts

    Sources?

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    Default Re: Cyprus National Guard and Abusive Treatment for Non Greek Speaking Conscripts

    Did a quick Google search and the first thing to show up was this page, couldn’t find any other sources.
    Also, I thought only Greek Cypriots had to serve, and wouldn’t most of them know Greek?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swoosh View Post
    Did a quick Google search and the first thing to show up was this page, couldn’t find any other sources.
    Also, I thought only Greek Cypriots had to serve, and wouldn’t most of them know Greek?
    No, anyone that gets Cypriot citizenship and is young enough is required to serve. They usually don't have to serve as long and only have 3 or 6 months. Others have to do 26 months. The source for this is

    http://www.cy4za.com/army.htm

    Also this

    http://www.cyprusnet.com/article_cyprus-national-guard

    The original post was from an associated press article dated 23 June

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    So where is source that showing the abuse of conscripts?
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    really? By who? Link?

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    Yeah, 2 posts in the forums and both about an unsourced event...anything better to do?
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    This does seem a bit extreme and the article does not have any references as to where it came from. However it does raise some interesting questions.

    1. What good is it to have a conscript that does not speak Greek, English only?

    2. Are orders all given in Greek? If so, how can a non Greek speaking conscript be expected to follow orders if he doesn't understand a word?

    3. Wouldn't not speaking Greek be a valid reason for early discharge?

    4. I would hate to think that they would keep this conscript in the army just to use as an example and entertainment for the others as this would be very cruel.

    5. Would they keep them there just as punishment for living in Cyprus all their life without learning Greek?

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    Yeah, I wonder who's alt is this.
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    Another sigh that shows that Cyprus can't unite back.

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    Are there any sources for this? Because I smell BS.

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    Couldn't find the article.

    OP posted this also in another forum, though.

    http://www.topix.com/forum/world/cyp...AJSIPOVEAJ3MQV
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    Default Re: Cyprus National Guard and Abusive Treatment for Non Greek Speaking Conscripts

    Without a source to back up the claims in the OP, this thread will remain closed. PM me once a source has been located.

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