Faction Leader and Heir full names/Keeping the Surnames

[khatmar]

is there a way that my Faction Leader and Heir can keep their surname? f.e. I got me John Smith who becomes an heir and thus its only Prince John, while Id love him to remain as Prince John Smith.

[Yomamashouse]

I would also like to know how to do this, as I try to do my best to keep only the original royal family and their descendants in power.

[TNZ]

khatmar: There's no way for the faction leader or heir to keep their surname outright, but it is possible to give the appearance of them keeping it, by giving them a trait with an epithet. I should stress that this technique is only useful when used on a character in the ‘descr_strat’ file. You would also need to make that trait a bloodline one i.e. passed from father to son.

[khatmar]

hmm... do you mean something like Of (something) Blood?

and how could I do it please? is there a tutorial somewhere on traits?

[Noobio]

maybe this one will help you too...iy's not exactly what you're looking for but it might interest you as well...you could use it for titles as king / hand / bannerman /prince /lord /ser or khal /ko etc

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=431932

[khatmar]

and where are these epithets? export_desc_character traits? or expanded? cant wait them

[TNZ]

and where are these epithets? export_desc_character traits? or expanded? cant wait them

Trait with an epithet:

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export_descr_character_traits:

;------------------------------------------
Trait Bard
    Characters family

    Level Bard
        Description Bard_desc
        EffectsDescription Bard_effects_desc
        Epithet Bard_epithet_desc
        Threshold  1 

        Effect HitPoints 4
        Effect Command 1
        Effect Chivalry 3
        Effect Loyalty 5
        Effect Authority 2
        Effect PersonalSecurity 1

export_VnVs:

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{Bard}Biography
{Bard_desc}Bard of Esgaroth is a skilled archer and the son of Girion, the last king of old Dale. Bard was able to slay the Dragon Smaug with a single arrow after a tip from the old thrush revealed an unarmoured spot on the Dragon's underside. Because of his miraculous shot he was given the epithet "the Bowman". After the rebuilding of Esgaroth, Bard became the first King of restored Dale.
{Bard_effects_desc}+4 Hitpoints, +1 Command, +3 Respect, +5 Loyalty, +2 Authority
{Bard_epithet_desc}the Bowman
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Bloodline trait with an epithet:

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export_descr_character_traits:

;------------------------------------------
Trait SurnameSmith
    Characters family

    Level SurnameSmith
        Description SurnameSmith_desc
        EffectsDescription SurnameSmith_effects_desc
        Epithet SurnameSmith_epithet_desc
        Threshold 1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger surname_smith_a
    	WhenToTest BecomesFactionLeader

    	Condition FatherTrait SurnameSmith = 1
	and Trait SurnameSmith = 0

    	Affects SurnameSmith 1 Chance  100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger surname_smith_b
	WhenToTest BecomesFactionHeir

    	Condition FatherTrait SurnameSmith = 1
	and Trait SurnameSmith = 0

    	Affects SurnameSmith 1 Chance  100

export_VnVs:

¬---------------------
{SurnameSmith}
{SurnameSmith_desc}
{SurnameSmith_effects_desc}
{SurnameSmith_epithet_desc}Smith
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[blue_evertonian]

Is there a way to expand this possibly, so that a pool of epithets can be used to provide surnames? For example, say the names de Normandy, de Court, FitGerald, Holland and White are each represented by an 'of blood' trait. Is there possibly a way to assign such names randomly but singularly to characters, without multiples occuring? Eg. without Bill de Normandy also having the trait 'Of de Court Blood'?

[Eothese]

Is there a way to expand this possibly, so that a pool of epithets can be used to provide surnames? For example, say the names de Normandy, de Court, FitGerald, Holland and White are each represented by an 'of blood' trait. Is there possibly a way to assign such names randomly but singularly to characters, without multiples occuring? Eg. without Bill de Normandy also having the trait 'Of de Court Blood'?

That depends on if the EDCT accepts the same conditions as EDA, if so then yes.

[blue_evertonian]

Hmmm. Thanks