A truly horrible woman (Rwandan genocide)

[alhoon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Nyiramasuhuko

"Pauline Nyiramasuhuko (born 1946) is a Rwandan politician who was the Minister for Family Welfare and the Advancement of Women ... She was tried for genocide and incitement to rape as part of the "Butare Group" ... In June 2011, she was convicted of seven charges and sentenced to life imprisonment. "

" The Hutu paramilitary group Interahamwe, led by Arsène Shalom Ntahobali, Pauline's 24-year-old son, surrounded the stadium. Refugees were raped, tortured, killed, and their bodies were burned."

" Nyiramasuhuko allegedly told militiamen, "before you kill the women, you need to rape them".[13] In another incident, she ordered her men to take cans of gasoline from her car and use them to burn a group of women to death, leaving a surviving rape victim as a witness.[11]"


Life imprisonment? Well I'm against death sentence in general but it strikes me as weird that Rwanda is so progressive. I thought a person like that fiend would be shot and left to rot. Not that I would shed tears over that BTW.
Minister of family wellfare and the advancement on women my a##.

I thought that women were better than this, ordering other women to be burned alive after being raped, their children to follow. I can't hardly think of a worse crime.

[Dr. Oza]

I hope you notice that your post reeks of masochism.

Women don't have to be Snow White you know, they are also capable of murder, rape, etc...

[Ancient Aliens]

I thought that women were better than this, ordering other women to be burned alive after being raped, their children to follow. I can't hardly think of a worse crime.

Why, exactly? They have the same thoughts spinning around their heads as men do. Everyone is capable of cruelties.

Yes, if people like this woman were to be put to death, I would think nothing of it. Though sentences as she is, she may be made to publically address her crimes, and be made to apologize for them prior to her imprisonment, which would do the victims of her crimes a lot of good in my opinion.

I hope you notice that your post reeks of masochism.

Women don't have to be Snow White you know, they are also capable of murder, rape, etc...

Masochism is taking pleasure from recieving pain. Perhaps you meant sexism?

[alhoon]

Why, exactly? They have the same thoughts spinning around their heads as men do. Everyone is capable of cruelties.

Because we're more violent by nature and women tend to understand that other women love their children so they order the massacre and burning of children harder than men do.

Women don't have to be Snow White you know, they are also capable of murder, rape, etc...

Yes they are capable of murder, rape, etc. How many violent crimes are done by men and how many by women?


Anyway that aside my point was that this really horrible person will go to jail. Will those orphans some of which found themselves as heads of their families as kids feel better now? Would they feel better if she was executed?
Politically, I think it was right to not execute her. Rwanda has suffered enough death IMO.
Violence breeds violence. I doupt many of them can rest easily and work with those that murdered their families.

[Ancient Aliens]

Because we're more violent by nature and women tend to understand that other women love their children so they order the massacre and burning of children harder than men do.

While I disagree with you, I think this should be the subject of another thread.

I will address this one post though, that is . The only reason why you believe this is because society tells you to. Women are extremely capable of violence, abuse, and cruelty, especially women in power.

[(s)AINT]

It just so happens that men are usually in control more than women are. And by control I mean in government positions dictating.

[Dr. Oza]

Masochism is taking pleasure from recieving pain. Perhaps you meant sexism?

lol I know but i always hear it used in place of sexism for some reason and decided to have my fun...

[hellheaven1987]

A government that conduct genocide in foreign country is trialed someone who conducted genocide in their country, this is going to be fun.

[alhoon]

A government that conduct genocide in foreign country is trialed someone who conducted genocide in their country, this is going to be fun.

I can't make sense of this sentence. Could you fix the syntax a bit please?

[hellheaven1987]

I can't make sense of this sentence. Could you fix the syntax a bit please?

I refuse; the current Rwanda government is as disgusting as the Hutu government in 1994, and I highly suggest all of them be arrested by UN and trialed by Internal Court.

[Ancient Aliens]

lol I know but i always hear it used in place of sexism for some reason and decided to have my fun...

Ohh you mean "misogyny"! Now I get it!

I was thinking to myself, what, the OP recieves sexual pleasure from pain because he is sexist?

[alhoon]

the current Rwanda government is as disgusting as the Hutu government in 1994, and I highly suggest all of them be arrested by UN and trialed by Internal Court.

Really? That's interesting. Can you elaborate? At least they don't arm thugs with machettes and send them to kill people. But from what I read they weren't the best boys to begin with.

I was thinking to myself, what, the OP recieves sexual pleasure from pain because he is sexist?

I don't think I'm sexist and I don't think my sexual preferences matter in whether Rwanda should have this person executed or not.

[hellheaven1987]

Really? That's interesting. Can you elaborate? At least they don't arm thugs with machettes and send them to kill people. But from what I read they weren't the best boys to begin with.

But the UN draft report, which was leaked on Friday, says in the years following the genocide, the Tutsi-dominated Rwandan army went into neighbouring Zaire (now DR Congo) and killed tens of thousands of ethnic Hutus - including women, children and the elderly.

Source

[Adar]

@AA He might also mean Male chauvinism which in many languages is shortened to something sounding like manchauvinism.

Source

Those poor Hutus just happens to be coming from Rwanda...

[alhoon]

It will take decades before these people stop killing each other. How are things now?

[Visna]

It will take decades before these people stop killing each other. How are things now?

Compared to when?
There is a new constitution which bans promoting ethnic hatred for example. Economic and social conditions have improved dramatically. Several officers have been tried by both the Rwandans themselves and the UN for genocide and for their role in the 1994 mass slaughter.
But, there's always a but isn't there, no rose without thorns. President Kagame seems to rather enjoy having power, opposition leaders risk a decreased life expentacy, and he was reelected with an impressive 93%. Draw your own conclusions.
Apart from that there is a continuing issue with cross border attacks into Congo, hunting Hutu militias operating from refugeecamps etc. Congo has pledged to disarm them in return for a withdrawal of Rwandan troops from the border areas, but their succes with that venture is mixed to put it mildly. And the Rwandan army uses a somewhat heavy handed approach when it finds suspected Hutu extremists and militias.

[Dr. Oza]

@AA He might also mean Male chauvinism which in many languages is shortened to something sounding like manchauvinism.

YES!

Ohh you mean "misogyny"! Now I get it!

Transliterating things you hear on T.V. without actually thinking about it is never a good thing

[alhoon]

Wait... you think that I'm a misogynist because I said that men are more capable of violence than women?

[charles the hammer]

Wait... you think that I'm a misogynist because I said that men are more capable of violence than women?

Yea, your a little sexists, but I wouldnt call you misogynist.

[Denny Crane!]

Women statistically kill far less then men. Stop trying to take the moral high ground folks!