The Wilting Flower of Chivalry - 1360 IH

[Dan the Man]

What? Why?

[Pericles of Athens]

Trade leagues need to be kicked they give nations like norway 200,000 each turn and not just that but how would Norway be in a trade league so far away.

[Kip]

There's way too much money floating around. The Polish-Teutonic War will last literally forever (we can't spend our money faster than we earn it), so I blanch at the thought of what the Hundred Years War would become, with your guys' infinite incomes lol

[Dan the Man]

Then lower the general incomes for each province level? I think you guys are going a little too nuts with this overhaul business...

[Pericles of Athens]

If we did keep this going(I really like the time but the income for western nations is crazy) which I think is stupid we would have to dump one of the others 4 IH's is way to much they will all die and then we will lose them all and have to make new ones.

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Dan@ that would kill my income and not do much to Poland or Norway as they are getting thier cash from trade spam not lands.

[Celsius]

well, there is a reason people lose interest in these, maybe overhauls aren't a bad idea.

['Gunny]

Well my suggestion was disconnected from the others

Though I think trade league should allow only one extra trade

[Pericles of Athens]

Nothing to see here

[Kip]

Dan@ that would kill my income and not do much to Poland or Norway as they are getting thier cash from trade spam not lands.

Not entirely true. I wasn't a member of a Trade League as Poland, so I wasn't earning any more trade income than the Ottomans. But still, with just the three trade partners and my provincial income (and that's with a whopping 10% vassal tax - I could up it to 40% without worrying about rebellion), I still have more money than I know what to do with.

[Pericles of Athens]

Well then im talking of other nations like Norway they made 45,000 of its regions and 289,500 in total it seems crazy that a nation makes so much more of trade then its land(less it be venice or something.)

[HMS England]

Things were going well for me I was going to win my war.... But things like norway getting 300,000 were stupid.

Trade leagues need to be kicked they give nations like norway 200,000 each turn and not just that but how would Norway be in a trade league so far away.

If we did keep this going(I really like the time but the income for western nations is crazy) which I think is stupid we would have to dump one of the others 4 IH's is way to much they will all die and then we will lose them all and have to make new ones.

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Dan@ that would kill my income and not do much to Poland or Norway as they are getting thier cash from trade spam not lands.

Well then im talking of other nations like Norway they made 45,000 of its regions and 289,500 in total it seems crazy that a nation makes so much more of trade then its land(less it be venice or something.)

Why do you keep complaining?! It's always someone else's fault. MAYBE it wasn't that you weren't in a trade league why you weren't making any money. MAYBE it was the fact you're playing as the Ottomans which don't have anything valuable to trade. Norway is suppose to be a trading empire. It's surrounded by water, it has a small population, and it has an abundance of wood and precious metals. Not to mention THEY'RE SMART. They know how to make money. What else were they suppose to do?! And the Ottomans? All they know how to do is fight, and compared to the Europeans they can't even do that!

Also, we're about the same distance from Genoa, but you didn't have any problem stating that you should've been in it instead of Norway did you?

Dan@ that would kill my income and not do much to Poland or Norway as they are getting thier cash from trade spam not lands.

Boo freaking hoo man, your lucky you're even getting as much from your land as you are, Turkey, Greece, and all the rest of your land is nothing but rugged mountainous "land" that's barely even hospitable let alone a powerhouse. And biggest of all, it's INTERACTIVE HISTORY, we're not following a script here!

[Pericles of Athens]

You dont see why you making more then anyone is a joke? Norway is worthless land the people never made an empire but wait the ottomans did and a huge ass one. Plus im in the same safe sea as them the trip from italy to Norway is hell by sea the trip from greece to italy is not. And you are farther away you have to go around Iberia then up to norway. Im saying it should be for all you me everyone no one gets trade leagues. One last thing the population of Norway has always been small you want to know why it is a frozen hell hole. I like how you say norway is all roses and greece is "barely even hospitable" you know that is a lie.

[HMS England]

[Agamemnon]

Can I join as Muscovy?

[Pericles of Athens]

Its dead aggy

[Dan the Man]

Yeah, sadly, it's been dead for a while now.

['Gunny]

[Agamemnon]

That sucks. I vote no, btw.