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    Default Did you use the "invasions"? How you doe that?

    i was wondering, due that and standard army in the game means about 3000 man, and as the results of a battle against an army with a similar number are, being optimist, a winner army of 2500 men, is the invasion a fact in the game, but first of all i think that i have to get clear the idea of "invasion". well, it means send a army or armys with the posibility dye ti the capability of a wonderful general an troops, to submitt any faction (include carthage in the first turns of the game) in their own lands; take the war to his country; it means that an army with full stacks should have the capability to dominate one region, with of course a great strategy and troops. Well, the fact is that these cant happent. The result of a battle is like a said, a lose of, even with a great job, 500 men. and that lefts you without an army after a couple of matchs and therefore an invasion cant happent. Send troops over and over again its not realistic. in the punic wars, while scipion was invading africa, rome couldnt send a lot of armys again and again cause navegation is dangerous.

    ¿The problem? Well, the max number of unites that can fight in the battlefield are to short; a fight between 3000 and 3000 will have those results necessarily. I dont know you but i feel these kind frustrating; this is the only thing that troubles me. In any case, if you know about a way to avoid these trouble, let me know, ill really apreciate that. I have to throw out the idea of have a battle of 15000 men vs 15000 i think; a winner army then will have the nufe number of men to keep goin.

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    Default Re: Did you use the "invasions"? How you doe that?

    The mod is constrained by the engine. Simply put, it cannot support 30,000 units battles. What settings do you have for the armies? There is a huge setting but you will have to have a powerful graphics card to support it.

    You need to plan your strategy and tactics accordingly, so if you want to dominate a region, say as Rome (the plan would vary for each faction but the basics are the same), You have your main legion to fight, a second full stack with replacement units to keep your main stack replenished, you could then have a half stack following on with garrison troops and another full siege stack with the artillery. In effect you have your full army.

    That said, in some cases you will annihilate the enemy with very few losses on your own side, but you may come up against an elite stack that even your best army struggles to overcome, you may even lose. The mod does the best it can with the old RTW engine, bear in mind it's what 10 years old? So you will have to send stack after stack at times. You may also want to try 1-turn which makes it much slower to build a stack so you will be far more careful in deploying your army, but you won't suffer so much from AI stack spamming either.

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    Default Re: Did you use the "invasions"? How you doe that?

    an advice - use at least 3 armies. one that is for full-stack battles with the enemy and has your best units in it , one with levy or auxilia units that is used to fight minor armies of your enemy or even rebels and one or more for sieges .The last one will be left behind so that your main invasion force may proceed and will have siege weapons and only infantry units that may be left behind to keep the happiness level high

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    Default Re: Did you use the "invasions"? How you doe that?

    Well i love the dificult level of the mod; if you invade hispania with rome you will fight against 4 or 5 elite carthage armies , and as result from that you will left with + or - 2500 from 3000 men deploy. I use huge unit size. My point is these: do we can supply the lack of realism in that point :the battles between 4000 vs 4000 men as max (under human control of course, only that counts) in order to have the same results that would have if you'll face a normal old battle, wich it means 23000 vs 15000; a extraordinary but possible result from that is the lose of 3000 men, so about the 10% of the army as result of a great victory. Well instead of that we have, from my experience, as result from a great victory againste an elite armie the lose of the 25% of the army.

    Nice suggestion that of use 3 armies, thanks. I'll try it. When i deply more than 1 armie all they were usually full stack combat armie, prepare to battle; not intend to complete the lose of men of the principal expeditionary army; thanks ill test it.

    thanks to bouth ill really apreciate your ideas

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