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    This is the bottom line of the United Nation's report on falling birth rates in the Western world, if population replacement levels continue to decline, says Fraser Nelson in the Spectator ("Where have all the babies gone?" 4th March 2006). Though the eventuality of this is extremely unlikely, it nonetheless highlights the gravity of a problem that has been apparent for several years: Europe is getting older and smaller.
    According to UN figures, the population of France will begin its decline in about ten years, while in fifty years the Ukranian population will have been halved, and the number of Russians will be four-fifths of its present day size.
    These statistics have off course worried the European Comission in Brussels, as the fall in population can only mean one thing: a pension crisis. Currently, for every pensioner there are four workers; however, as birth rates continue to drop and life expectancy rates continue to rise, the ratio is set to become two workers to every pensioner. The population of Europe is beginning to look like an inverted pyramid.
    "The elderly may be drafted in to man the factories and soon the immigrants will go native and stop breeding. Take some UN forecasts to their extreme and they suggest that the last Frenchman dies in 2107, the last Italian in 2180 and the last Briton in 2780. The Irish hang on to the last.[...] No one has grasped the real implications of the sexual revolution in the 1960s."
    Nelson continues, saying that the most important consequence of the contraceptive pill is not the liberation of women's sexual desires, but that it has allowed couples to plan their families according to their wishes. Consequently, birth rates have declines further and further. Not a single country in Europe has a birth rate that equals the natural replacement level of 2.1 children per woman.
    However, whereas the number of births every year falls in Europe, America does not follow suit.
    "Women in the United States are today having babies not seen in Britain since the Second World War. The trends are by no means universal, but in HIspanic and Bible Belt areas, people are breeding as if the 1960s had never happened. This baby rate is the object of much envy in Brussels, which points out that the Americans have an unfair advantage because of of the Hispanics, who average more than three kids per woman. But even the average white American female's birth ratio of 1.9 is higher than the average Irishwoman-whose average lifetime tally of 1.85 is the highest in Europe."
    Tha author then discusses the issue of abortion (illegal in Ireland), saying that a quarter of all pregnancies in England and Wales are aborted. However, perhaps the single most important factor of declining birth rates is economics. Whereas in the Third World children are viewed as spare workers for families, bringing in extra income, or "walking pension policies" to support their parents in their dotage, in the Western world, especially in well-to-do couples,they are often seen as expensive luxury, to be indulged if you can afford the drain on finances, especially if those parents have "high aspirations for them". This case can also be seen among blacks in America who have grown wealthier, and whose reproduction rates have also slumped, almost equalling the average white woman's rate.
    Nelson continues to develop this argument, saying that as global poverty will continue to fall, birth rates will fall with it, with UN figures indicating that the world's population will reach its zenith in about forty years from now, at a grand total of 7.75 billion people. From then on the decline shall begin, steadily accelerating until, if the trends fo not change, the human race will die out in ten thousand years, "having survived for far less time than the dinosaurs. Mankind may yet end up being a blip on the history of the planet, and Europeans a micro-blip."
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    So what do you think?Is ther anything that can be done to remedy this seemingly inescapable situation?
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    This baby rate is the object of much envy in Brussels, which points out that the Americans have an unfair advantage because of of the Hispanics, who average more than three kids per woman. But even the average white American female's birth ratio of 1.9 is higher than the average Irishwoman-whose average lifetime tally of 1.85 is the highest in Europe."
    this makes me laugh, an "unfair advantage." How is it unfair? The Hispanics aren't any better at having kids than the white Americans or white Europeans. I think this is just another "sky is falling" scare tactic type of things. I wouldn't be too concerned about it, and if it does become a big problem, then there could be large government tax incentives for people having more than 2 children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55
    this makes me laugh, an "unfair advantage." How is it unfair? The Hispanics aren't any better at having kids than the white Americans or white Europeans. I think this is just another "sky is falling" scare tactic type of things. I wouldn't be too concerned about it, and if it does become a big problem, then there could be large government tax incentives for people having more than 2 children.
    Actually Hispanics, Mainly Mexican American Birth Rate is very High in American and soon they will be the Majority but as goes the Majority so will come Interracial couples. My Cousin has about 6 kids by mexican women. The African American populations is falling do to breeding with other races and also killings. I am about to marry a asian woman and we will have 3 kids. But I guess in Europe it is a lot worst, also people tend not wanting to get married and have kids because of trust and greed. A man doesnt want to truse a woman because she might cheat or if they get divorce then he will lost alot of money. So it is better to just mess with a lot of women instead. That is my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deno59
    Actually Hispanics, Mainly Mexican American Birth Rate is very High in American and soon they will be the Majority but as goes the Majority so will come Interracial couples. My Cousin has about 6 kids by mexican women. The African American populations is falling do to breeding with other races and also killings. I am about to marry a asian woman and we will have 3 kids. But I guess in Europe it is a lot worst, also people tend not wanting to get married and have kids because of trust and greed. A man doesnt want to truse a woman because she might cheat or if they get divorce then he will lost alot of money. So it is better to just mess with a lot of women instead. That is my opinion.
    Just out of curiosity...is your family AIMING to create cross breeds? It's not as if they're going to be treated "special" in America...

    If anything (actually, this is what happens) : They will be blacklisted as minorities, not get jobs because of it (affirmative action does nothing...they just say "ah, you didn't get the job because someone more qualified came along, I work in upper level management at the second largest banking chain in America, this is how it works)...

    Not only that but again, why AIM to have not ONE white person in a family that started out...white? I wouldn't say anything but you've mentioned what...6 kids in your family, all cross bred? That sounds like it's awefully intentional to me...

    what do you feel the advantage to this is?

    I love the attitude also...regarding single men (very large umbrella son lol) that they're just "greedy" because they don't want to lose their money to a complete stranger. How is that greed? It's more like intelligence...

    Marrying asians and mexicans who just want citizenship, letting them become legally entitled to 35-50 percent of your estate (however small or large it is, half is half) and then watching them disappear while you're stuck with the 5 halfbreeds running around your house while they take YOUR money and go marry another single man...now that's stupidity :laughing:

    I love the other inuendo (sp?) from an obvious anti-capitalist that anyone with money who doesn't want to lose it is greedy. Perhaps that's your real issue here...you're rich and have decided to redistribute your wealth to the poorest, most ignorant people in the world out of charity.

    I sure hope that's it, because if it's not, I don't know what the hell you're thinking lol. You've basically taken your family from the top of the racial food chain in the largest capitalist empire the world has ever seen and turned them into the bottom of the food chain, where after you're gone (and probably much sooner) they're going to find themselves working at Wal-Mart...the nation's number one employer of minorities/lowest class families.

    I just don't understand this "pride" in actually "altering" your families racial makeup to multiculturals, who are looked down upon by the upper middle class and wealthy (you know, the people who run the country). Just makes absolutely no sense to a person who is, well...wealthy. I just don't get it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by General4Hire
    I just don't understand this "pride" in actually "altering" your families racial makeup to multiculturals, who are looked down upon by the upper middle class and wealthy (you know, the people who run the country). Just makes absolutely no sense to a person who is, well...wealthy. I just don't get it...
    Good point, don't marry the person you love because racists might have a problem with it. Enlightening advice, I must say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlanite
    Good point, don't marry the person you love because racists might have a problem with it. Enlightening advice, I must say.
    Not what I said...

    Again, how could the entire family specifically, but at random (just by chance) fall in love with not one white person when they're all white. Why don't you let the person who wrote it defend it since you couldn't know what they were thinking any better than I did....difference is I asked that person a direct question regarding it. You spammed.

    Your credibility=

    I'll give you a little treat here and say yes...I think at times one should consider the long term effects of their "love" rather than the instant gratification that sex with another brings. I kinda think this thread is all about that to be honest with you. Read my previous posts and you'll see why.

    I have descention for people who only consider what's in their pants when breeding families....I'm looking for a specific type of continuation in my bloodline...I just cannot respect the person who doesn't, since to me, that's not respecting themselves. Again...perhaps this is what Europe's thinking too?

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    damn what happened to the sex! and what will replace us lovable humans, dolphins? never!

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    I highly doubt that it will ever come to this, but it highlights a very serious point. I saw a programme on BBC last year on the issue of pensionners outnumbering workers. If this happens, The EU will go into serious decline until the balance is restored.
    I can't see this declining birth rate happening where I live though.
    On Average:
    Chavs have 2 babies by the age of 20
    Asians have 3 babies in total
    Whites have 2 babies in total
    All I can say is that the problem must be down south! There is no problem up here with pregnancy rates.

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    Take some UN forecasts to their extreme and they suggest that the last Frenchman dies in 2017, the last Italian in 2180 and the last Briton in 2780.
    Either there are 5 people left in france or you typed this wrong....


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    "Chavs have 2 babies by the age of 20" damn were gonna be replaced by a race of degenerate chav people! :laughing:

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    This is stupid.... "We can predict exactly what will happen with the population of earth."
    How the hell do you predict something like this? Yeah take the current numbers and apply it to some matter of years... What if the trend suddenly changes? I won't even bother to read such crap...
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    true we could experiance a baby boom i mean no prediction is 100% accurate

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    actually the average chav female is pregnant before she reaches secondary school... it is more like 3 babies before 20 please people get the facts right
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantMonkeyMan
    actually the average chav female is pregnant before she reaches secondary school... it is more like 3 babies before 20 please people get the facts right
    And where is your source for this?
    As my mate said the other day,'whereas normal people reproduce at the age of about 20-25, chavs reproduce every 13 years!'. Seen as this is true we will indeed be over run by an uber-species of chav with more burberry, annoying voices and 'i'm gonna deck ya' speak...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarDreamer
    This is stupid.... "We can predict exactly what will happen with the population of earth."
    How the hell do you predict something like this? Yeah take the current numbers and apply it to some matter of years... What if the trend suddenly changes? I won't even bother to read such crap...
    To be fair the end of the article did question the validity of computer statistics, saying "Alter a few assumptions, and the mathematical forecast can point to almost any result you like." But I wasn't sure that if I posted or paraphrased the entire article I would be warned for copyright infringement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by purple elf
    damn were gonna be replaced by a race of degenerate chav people! :laughing:
    Its allready happening... All I have to do is walk intop town and theyre everywhere... I wouldnt mind provided they wernt so stupid (stereotype(sorry) but you know im right )
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    It's the governments fault. If they don't create a "birth-friendly" society then they cannot expect people to have babies.

    Perhaps it is time for me to get into politics, the situation in Europe is getting dire.

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    Well, you could make some sort of tax bonus so that white europeens make more chidren or something....
    Like you are reworded if you have 2-3 children....
    And not none or one, this problem Europe is having now is the same that was faced by rome, and was one of the reasons it fell to the barabarians

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    this can only mean one thing...******for freedom and your race ****** against the european silent holocaust lol

    im just kidding.

    europe will still be called europe in 1000 years..and if the people are all black or green by then they still will be called europeans still.
    and what about we have more global warming in 1000 years and the world will look way different..like the alps are an island or something.
    or we have a nuclear war and the average european will have 5 legs and 3 tits? or a desiease thator virus that strikes down huge parts of the population. maybe we all die and the few survivors in the far north and south will be the only ones who survive and start reconquering the planet again as a clean arian race

    i bet you apes were scared too when the first of us walked on 2 legs. gee do you see link he walks on 2 legs..i tell you in 2000 yeras the whole neandertal will walk on 2 legs and our culture of living on trees and eating raw meant will die. the neandertal has to stay the way it is! no 2 foot walkers, go to africa!

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    Europe gone by the year 3000

    Ill die well before 2100

    Dont realy care.

    Besides, the only real reasons for the birth trend declining is women are no longer accepting that they are raised to have kids and look after the kitchen.

    Women put their careers ahead of having kids more and more.

    We are just hitting extremes, a few years ago everybody was scared there would be too many people, now its too few.

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