House rejects measure to continue US role in Libya

[Vanoi]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_libya'

WASHINGTON – The House has voted down a measure giving President Barack Obama the authority to continue the U.S. military action against Libya.
The vote was 295-123 on Friday. The congressional action has no immediate effect on American involvement but represents a repudiation of the commander in chief.
The vote marks the first time since 1999 that either House has voted against a military operation. The last time was over President Bill Clinton's authority in the Bosnian war.
House Republican leaders pushed for the vote, with rank-and-file members saying the president broke the law by failing to seek congressional approval for the 3-month-old war. Some Democrats accused the GOP of playing politics with national security.

Looks like the US is is no longer continueing their role in Libya. I like how the Republicans were only doing this because Obama is a Democrat. I am sure if we would have had a Republican president and he got involved in this war in Libya, the Republicans would be silent on the matter. Its ridiculous really. Does this mean the US cannot provide logistical support for NATO? If so the UK, Italy, France, and other nations in Libya will be screwed.

[Heathen Hammer]

If so the UK, Italy, France, and other nations in Libya will be screwed.

Good.

[Vanoi]

Good.

Yep now Gaddafi can finish what he started and go murder more people. Good right?

[Heathen Hammer]

Yep now Gaddafi can finish what he started and go murder more people. Good right?

He can also eat more babies and drink more virgin blood.

[Vanoi]

He can also eat more babies and drink more virgin blood.

What, you don't believe Gaddafi has ordered the killings of innocent people? Why not? You critizied the US and NATO on only interveneing in Libya when protesters were also being killed in Bahrain. What puzzles me is why were you so quick to believe that protesters were being killed in Bahrain, but still continue to deny that Gaddafi killed any innocent protesters in Libya?

[Heathen Hammer]

What, you don't believe Gaddafi has ordered the killings of innocent people? Why not? You critizied the US and NATO on only interveneing in Libya when protesters were also being killed in Bahrain. What puzzles me is why were you so quick to believe that protesters were being killed in Bahrain, but still continue to deny that Gaddafi killed any innocent protesters in Libya?

We've already been through this. Live rounds were only used later, and from both sides of the conflict. You seem to confuse armed militants in Libya with peaceful protesters. If you burn government buildings and shoot at policemen and soldiers than you are not a peaceful protester.

[Elemental]

Yep now Gaddafi can finish what he started and go murder more people. Good right?

Like you care anyhow

[Imperial]

The House has voted down a measure giving President Barack Obama the authority to continue the U.S. military action against Libya.

Obama's response...

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[IronBrig4]

Where were these people when Bush was banging the war drum to invade Iraq?

[Imperial]

Where were these people when Bush was banging the war drum to invade Iraq?

Not elected, apparently.

[SorelusImperion]

Where were these people when Bush was banging the war drum to invade Iraq?

Busy joining the choir.

[Armenum]

Looks like the US is is no longer continueing their role in Libya. I like how the Republicans were only doing this because Obama is a Democrat. I am sure if we would have had a Republican president and he got involved in this war in Libya, the Republicans would be silent on the matter. Its ridiculous really.

I agree, it seems like just symbolic battering in preparation for the re-election. A Republican might have already sent in ground troops and their fellow republicans would obviously be cheering them on. Often times, political party lines trump ideals and principles.

[Imperial]

lulz

Sarkozy is claiming that Europeans are doing all the work.

http://af.reuters.com/article/energy...75N14P20110624


This graph begs to differ...

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[mrmouth]

lulz

Sarkozy is claiming that Europeans are doing all the work.

http://af.reuters.com/article/energy...75N14P20110624

If by work he means dropping the bombs, then yes. The US is still doing just about everything else. Including providing the bombs.

Europeans cannot take a fraction of the criticism they toss our way. Not even when it is perfectly factual.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

This graph begs to differ...

As much as I hate European dick waving/psuedo nationalism, that graph confirms what he was saying.

[Imperial]

As much as I hate European dick waving/psuedo nationalism, that graph confirms what he was saying.

lol no it doesn't .

Doing half the work isn't doing all of it.

According to the graph, the US has deployed more personal and airplanes then all the European countries combined. Furthermore, dropping the same number of bombs and deploying about the same number of ships. I'm sure this intervention is costing the US more then it is Europe as well.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

According to the graph, the US has deployed more personal and airplanes then all the European countries combined.

MEUs sitting on assault ships doing nothing aren't really contributing.

It's the UK and France who are doing the most sorties.

[Principe Alessandro]

lol no it doesn't .

Doing half the work isn't doing all of it.

According to the graph, the US has deployed more personal and airplanes then all the European countries combined. Furthermore, dropping the same number of bombs and deploying about the same number of ships. I'm sure this intervention is costing the US more then it is Europe as well.

Firstly that graph is old. Secondly after 31 march the US has switched to support mode and has deployed only one ship and no plane and anyway only France and UK has flown more sorties than US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operati...eployed_forces
The US involvement was only a short term high intensity military action that stopped on 31 March while Euros are continuining to bomb and enforce the embargo. The more time pass without significant US support the lesser your argument is valid.

To speak shortly this is Euros' war and US has provided only support without significant offensive capabilities.

MEUs sitting on assault ships doing nothing aren't really contributing.

It's the UK and France who are doing the most sorties.

Correct, +rep

[Imperial]

Firstly that graph is old. Secondly after 31 march the US has switched to support mode and has deployed only one ship and no plane and anyway only France and UK has flown more sorties than US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operati...eployed_forces
The US involvement was only a short term high intensity military action that stopped on 31 March while Euros are continuining to bomb and enforce the embargo. The more time pass without significant US support the lesser your argument is valid.

To speak shortly this is Euros' war and US has provided only support without significant offensive capabilities.

Er...

That graph is from May 5th. Therefore, from March 31 to May 5th, the European nations could only do half of what the US did?

That's even worse.

[Sir Winston Churchill]

In a few months or maybe a year we'll be hearing of "OH WHY WAS THE US IDLE WHILE ALL THESE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY WERE BEING COMMITTED!"