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    Default Justice Thomas - Ethics violations

    Didnt see a thread on this.



    Cleary this is a seriously breach of ethics.

    Apparently,
    1. Thomas has donated $500,000 dollars to his wife so she could start a Tea Party related group,
    2. and he has failed to disclose major forms of income for at least a decade, and
    3. reported no sources of income for his wife either who has clearly earned more than hundreds of thousands of dollars,
    4. he has also failed to disclose income received from a conservative think tank that has also filed briefs with the Supreme Court,
    5. and along with Scalia he attended a private get together with billionaire brothers the Kochs whose cases frequently come before the court,
    6. and real estate magnate Harlan Crow gave Thomas a bible worth $19,000.


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    The New York Times is reporting that several projects involving conservative friends of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas are under scrutiny. Apparently Thomas introduced Harlan Crow -- a wealthy, conservative Dallas real estate mogul -- to Algernon Varn, a man who lives in the coastal village near Savannah, Ga., where Thomas was raised, in order to finance a preservation project of the land. Thomas' friend Mr. Crow financed the multimillion-dollar purchase and restoration of the cannery on the coastal land, featuring a museum about the culture and history of Pin Point. Varn's project has become a pet project of Thomas'.

    According to the article, the project throws a spotlight on an unusual, and ethically sensitive, friendship that appears to be markedly different from those of other justices on the nation's highest court. The two men met in the mid-1990s, a few years after Thomas joined the court. Since then, Crow has done many favors for the justice and his wife, Virginia, helping finance a Savannah library project dedicated to Thomas, presenting him with a Bible that belonged to Frederick Douglass and reportedly providing $500,000 for Mrs. Thomas to start a Tea Party-related group. They have also spent time together at gatherings of prominent Republicans and businesspeople at Crow's Adirondacks estate and his camp in East Texas.

    These activities are raising questions about Supreme Court ethics. Crow's financing of the museum, his largest such act of generosity, previously unreported, raises the sharpest questions yet -- both about Thomas' extrajudicial activities and about the extent to which the justices should remain exempt from the code of conduct for federal judges.

    We find it interesting that Thomas' activities are still under scrutiny. Nothing has been done to curb his questionable actions previously, so why think he's going to stop now? We also wonder if any of the other Supreme Court justices are involved in similar activities with wealthy friends or donors related to pet projects.

    We're not Supreme Court justices or anything, but having that level of involvement in projects that could influence your decision-making process is shady at best. We find it befuddling that federal judges have an ethical code to follow, while Supreme Court justices do not. Scholars can continue to debate the ethics of Thomas' decisions, but until some actual laws are on the books for the Supreme Court justices' ethical behavior, it won't make a difference.


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    Justice Clarence Thomas is famous for his silence. While his fellow Supreme Court justices regularly challenge and work out complex points with the lawyers who appear before them, Justice Thomas has not asked a question from the bench for five years and counting. Unfortunately, he has been quiet on another matter as well: the mounting concerns that he has flouted ethics and financial disclosure rules in accepting gifts and favors from wealthy friends who have a stake in the cases he decides.

    Justice Thomas can choose not to ask questions. But it's clearly time that he answered some.

    Justice Thomas has, for at least the past few years, walked along the blurry edge that divides unethical conduct from acceptable practices on the Supreme Court. He notoriously chose not to disclose major sources of family income on federal forms for more than a decade in violation of federal law. Although he reported no income earned by his wife Virginia, she in fact earned hundreds of thousands of dollars. Even worse, some of the income he failed to disclose came from a conservative think tank that frequently files briefs with the Court. He also drew fire for attending, with Justice Antonin Scalia, a private get-together sponsored by billionaire political powerhouses David and Charles Koch whose pet corporate causes often come across the Justices' desks.

    Then, this week, the New York Times broke the story of Thomas' close friendship and mutual back-scratching with a politically active real estate magnate Harlan Crow. Crow, the Times reported, "has done many favors for the justice and his wife, Virginia, helping finance a Savannah library project dedicated to Justice Thomas, presenting him with a Bible that belonged to Frederick Douglass [valued at over $19,000] and reportedly providing $500,000 for Ms. Thomas to start a Tea Party-related group." He also, the Times discovered, has been trying to hide his role as the main benefactor behind a multi-million dollar museum in Georgia that is a pet project of the Justice. In addition, the Times story raised concerns about whether some of Justice Thomas's travel was underwritten by Mr. Crow and whether such support was accurately disclosed in the Justice's notoriously inaccurate financial disclosures.

    Crow isn't just a friend of Thomas who happens to be rich. He's active in political causes, and has "served on the boards of two conservative organizations involved in filing supporting briefs in cases before the Supreme Court" including one, the American Enterprise Institute, that gave Justice Thomas a $15,000 bust of Lincoln.

    Obviously, Supreme Court Justices are allowed to have friends, just like the rest of us. But unlike the rest of us, their friendships -- especially when they involve expensive gifts and multimillion dollar favors -- can result in momentous conflicts of interest, or the appearances of conflicts, that affect the entire country. Who Justice Thomas chooses to befriend is his own private business. But who he or his pet projects receive huge gifts from is all of our business.

    Ethics issues on the high court can be tricky, since Justices aren't required to abide by any specific set of rules and don't have a higher court to keep them in line. But many, including Thomas' colleagues Anthony Kennedy and Stephen Breyer, say that the justices hold themselves to the same code of conduct that regulates other federal judges and stipulates that judges "should avoid impropriety or the appearance of impropriety in all situations." Failure to comply with the code of conduct "diminishes public confidence in the judiciary and injures our system of government under law."

    This is why the American people have the right to answers from Justice Thomas. Americans have become increasingly frustrated in recent years as the Supreme Court has handed down decision after decision that privileges the interests -- and profits -- of corporations over the rights of individual Americans to hold them accountable. Citizens United v. FEC was one such decision. Another is this week's decision in Dukes v. Wal-Mart, which took away the ability of as many as 1.5 million victims of pay discrimination to band together in court to hold the company accountable for its discriminatory policies. Average Americans can't afford a ride on a private jet or an expensive work of art, let alone afford to give these as a gift to a Supreme Court justice. Even if the motivations behind all these gifts are entirely pure, accepting them casts doubt on a judge's ability to be impartial.

    Justice Thomas needs to be open with the American people, all of whose lives are affected by Supreme Court decisions. He needs to tell us who is paying for his pet causes and whether he asked them to do so. He needs to tell us where his family income is coming from and whether it benefits from his work on the Court. He needs to tell us what gifts he's received from individuals and organizations that have a direct interest in the decisions he makes. And he needs to tell us that he will recuse himself from any case that he appears to have a financial interest in.

    If Justice Thomas wants us to trust that he will give a fair hearing to all Americans, regardless of cash or connections, he needs to be open and honest with us about the circles of influence he inhabits.

    It's time for Justice Thomas to speak up. The Supreme Court's integrity depends on it.

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    It is very worrying information. But the political reality is the House is Republican controlled and would not vote to impeach the most reliably conservative Justice while a Democrat in is the White House.

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    he isn't doing much on the court anyways. His 19th century originalism is considered nuts even by Scalia. The Chief justice rarely assigns him any major cases cuz he couldn't get five votes with his opinions.
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    I'm just glad I'm young enough that I know damn well I'll get to spend most of my life without him on the court.
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    As the video makes clear, Thomas has not violated any of the ethics rules applying to Supreme Court justices*, nor have his actions been unusual in relation to the behaviour of other justices. Rep. Murphy is just having a whine about the fact that the rules for Congressmen are (in some ways) stricter than the rules for Supreme Court judges, and suggesting (falsely) that Thomas's behaviour is somehow exceptional.

    *With one exception. He ticked the wrong box on a form, but his wife's employment was a matter of public knowledge and widely reported in the media, so it's not like he was keeping it a secret, and her employment didn't create any conflicts of interest anyway. Compare that with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who made exactly the same mistake but also failed to recuse herself from cases involving the firms that her husband had a financial interest in.

    BTW, if you want a lengthy point by point response you could take a look here:
    Putting the Left’s Ethics Smears in Perspective, Part 1.
    Putting the Left’s Ethics Smears in Perspective, Part 2.
    Putting the Left’s Ethics Smears in Perspective, Part 3.
    Ridiculous NYT Hit Job on Justice Thomas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DimeBagHo View Post
    As the video makes clear, Thomas has not violated any of the ethics rules applying to Supreme Court justices*, nor have his actions been unusual in relation to the behaviour of other justices.
    A technicality, given SCOTUS Judges aren't bound by any ethics rules the way 'mere' federal judges are. They follow them out of tradition, except in the case of Thomas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    A technicality, given SCOTUS Judges aren't bound by any ethics rules the way 'mere' federal judges are. They follow them out of tradition, except in the case of Thomas.
    See the links in my earlier post. Whelan provides an abundance of examples of other justices going far beyond anything that Thomas has been accused of, and many of the accusations against Thomas are fabrications to begin with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DimeBagHo View Post
    See the links in my earlier post. Whelan provides an abundance of examples of other justices going far beyond anything that Thomas has been accused of, and many of the accusations against Thomas are fabrications to begin with.
    So I'm supposed to accept that he's ok because this thread isn't saying others have done wrong too? Please. This thread has yet to be about anything other than Thomas. I invite you to post your own comments on what other SCOTUS judges have done in the past if you really, really need to hear me say they had ethics problems too(I'm not digging through links, add your own commentary). Stop trying to deflect by saying two wrongs make a right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DimeBagHo View Post
    As the video makes clear, Thomas has not violated any of the ethics rules applying to Supreme Court justices*, nor have his actions been unusual in relation to the behaviour of other justices. Rep. Murphy is just having a whine about the fact that the rules for Congressmen are (in some ways) stricter than the rules for Supreme Court judges, and suggesting (falsely) that Thomas's behaviour is somehow exceptional.

    *With one exception. He ticked the wrong box on a form, but his wife's employment was a matter of public knowledge and widely reported in the media, so it's not like he was keeping it a secret, and her employment didn't create any conflicts of interest anyway. Compare that with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who made exactly the same mistake but also failed to recuse herself from cases involving the firms that her husband had a financial interest in.

    BTW, if you want a lengthy point by point response you could take a look here:
    Putting the Left’s Ethics Smears in Perspective, Part 1.
    Putting the Left’s Ethics Smears in Perspective, Part 2.
    Putting the Left’s Ethics Smears in Perspective, Part 3.
    Ridiculous NYT Hit Job on Justice Thomas.
    Thats because the same ethics rules that apply to lower courts dont apply to the Supreme Court. Instead its more of an unspoken rule.

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    Disgusting. I hope we don't have to put up with him on the bench for too much longer, he came in with shame and controversy and he seems likely to go out the same way.

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