Pilum for days

[mdibatti]

I was playing Juli last nite after playing Greece for a couple weeks and I tried something I hadn't done before with a Roman army.

At the start of the battle, I set all my Hastati to Guard mode and just waited patiently for the Gaul army to reach my front line.

Then, to my amazement, the Hastati just started chucking Pilum after Pilum....they didn't charge, just sat there launching wave after wave of Pilum. I've never seen this before.....I thought they only had 2 rounds???

Can anyone shed some light on this?

[Lusted]

You have probably set unlimited ammo to true in options, set it to false and they will use only 2.

[mdibatti]

Well, that would explain it....I had no idea it was an option. Thanks.

[chris21]

I think i may have the same problem, the Hastati seem to throw about 5 or 6 pilums before they are empty =/. Where can i find that option so they can only throw 2?

[ajimenez3]

From the Preference.txt file(in the C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War folder) find the highlighted line and change to true if false.

SAFE_REFRESH:TRUE
USE_TRIPLE_BUFFER:FALSE
USE_WIDESCREEN:FALSE
SUBTITLES:FALSE
MORALE:TRUE
FATIGUE:TRUE
LIMITED_AMMO:TRUE
SUPPLY:TRUE
FOG_OF_WAR:TRUE
RESTRICT_CAMERA:TRUE
DEFAULT_BATTLE_CAMERA:RTS
EVENT_CUTSCENES:TRUE
SMOKE:TRUE
DESYNC:FALSE
SPLASHES:FALSE
GLINTS:FALSE
REFLECTIONS:FALSE
SHADOWS:FALSE
VEGETATION:FALSE
DETAILED_UNIT_SHADOWS:FALSE
GLOSS_MAPPING:FALSE
STENCIL_SHADOWS:FALSE
MULTI_TEXTURE:TRUE
AUTO_SAVE:TRUE
SHOW_BANNERS:TRUE
UNIT_SIZE:40
MASTER_VOL:100
SPEECH_VOL:100
SFX_VOL:100
MUSIC_VOL:70
CAMERA_ROTATE:50
CAMERA_MOVE:50
CAMERA_FOV:75.000000
ENABLE_AUDIO:TRUE
ENABLE_MUSIC:TRUE
ENABLE_UNIT_SPEECH:TRUE
DISABLE_BACKGROUND_FMV:FALSE
DISABLE_ARROW_MARKERS:FALSE
AUDIO_3D_PROVIDER:Miles Fast 2D Positional Audio
CLOUD_TRANSITIONS:TRUE
GRASS_DISTANCE:20
AA_QUALITY:AA_OFF
STRATEGY_RESOLUTION:1024x768
STRATEGY_32_BIT:FALSE
BATTLE_RESOLUTION:800x600
BATTLE_32_BIT:TRUE
UNIT_DETAIL:LOW
BUILDING_DETAIL:NORMAL
TGA_CAPTURE_WIDTH:1024
TGA_CAPTURE_ASPECT:1.333333
TGA_CAPTURE_INPUT_SCALE:1
TGA_CAPTURE_RESERVE_SPACE:FALSE
LABEL_CHARACTERS:FALSE
LABEL_SETTLEMENTS:TRUE
MINIMAL_UI:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_MAX_SCROLL_SPEED_MIN_ZOOM:30
CAMPAIGN_MAP_MAX_SCROLL_SPEED_MAX_ZOOM:30
FIRST_TIME_PLAY:FALSE
ADVISOR_VERBOSITY:3
MUTE_ADVISOR:FALSE
BLIND_ADVISOR:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_CAMERA:FOLLOW_AI_FACTIONS
CAMPAIGN_MAP_SPEED_UP:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_GAME_SPEED:15
DISABLE_EVENTS:0
MICROMANAGE_ALL_SETTLEMENTS:FALSE
ADVANCED_STATS_ALWAYS:FALSE
UNIT_USE_SHADERS:FALSE
TERRAIN_QUALITY:MEDIUM
EFFECT_QUALITY:HIGH
VEGETATION_QUALITY:MEDIUM
KEYSET:0
UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD:FALSE
CAMPAIGN_MAP_CAMERA_SMOOTHING:TRUE
CHAT_MSG_DURATION:10
USE_QUICKCHAT:FALSE
GS_PIDS:FALSE
GS_PIDS_FULL:FALSE
GS_PIDS_CUR:TRUE
ALWAYS_LOGFILE:FALSE
TIMESTAMP_LOGFILE:TRUE


Semper Fi
Arturo

[John I Tzimisces]

Either do what they said, or bear in mind if your unit's numbers are depleted, they will throw as many javelins as if they were in a full unit. If the full unit (40 soldiers) throws 80 javelins, they will throw 2 rounds. If there are only 10 men, they will throw 8 rounds, IIRC.

[Trajan]

Even with LIMITED_AMMO set to true and only given two pilum, they'll still throw close to three waves of pilum. I guess that's because in the first or second wave, not all the men threw their pila.

[mdibatti]

How do you set your legions to fire at will? When I select them, the fire at will button is greyed out?

[Hader]

How do you set your legions to fire at will? When I select them, the fire at will button is greyed out?

If you are selecting your actual legion (legionary cohort, etc.), than the only reason that it should be greyed out is because they already threw all of their pila.

[mdibatti]

Can you only set post marius unit to fire at will? I just started a game as Juli and can't set hastati, etc. to fire at will.

[Red Harvest]

Any missile unit can be set to fire-at-will as best I recall. Pila, javelins, slingers, archers, etc.

[mdibatti]

Any missile unit can be set to fire-at-will as best I recall. Pila, javelins, slingers, archers, etc.

Really? Cause I can't set any missle unit to fire-at-will....nothing at all and they are all fresh units, haven't fired off a round.

Anyone know what might be going on?

[Red Harvest]

You are doing this *after* you've started battle, right? Seems I recall options like that may be grayed out before battle starts....

[Trajan]

No, you can set your missile units to fire at will or not when in battle setup. mdibatti, you must be doing something wrong because you should be able to set your missile units to fire at will whether before the battle or during. Your missile units should already be set to fire at will before you click the button to start the battle. Maybe when your selecting your missile units, you're accidentally including one or more units that don't contain a missile weapon which in turn will grey out the fire at will button. Before you start the battle, select only one missle unit and see if you can toggle fire at will on and off.

[Gunno_Desk]

Or, you set he game to arcade battle, which pretty much doesn't allow you to use the fire at will mode for god-knows what reasons......
But you didn't have unlimited ammo so I doutb it :sweatingb

[mdibatti]

Or, you set he game to arcade battle, which pretty much doesn't allow you to use the fire at will mode for god-knows what reasons......
But you didn't have unlimited ammo so I doutb it :sweatingb

I think you're onto something here....I always set the game to arcade battle. Not sure why, always thought I had to for some reason, that would probably explain why I don't get a Generals speech. Awesome, I'll give it a try tonite! Thanks everyone for all the help