OK, lets just see.
I'm not picking on SO, but a lot of popular metal bands have these names. Are these not hugely bad influences on the teens listening to the songs? I think this is as much a problem as when someone says "Yeah, rap makes you wanna pop a cap in ya ass."Originally Posted by Sextus Overlord
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Metal band names want me to kill...?
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i think the difference is metal advocates a reclusive lifestlye of contimplation on the cruelty of mankind. Rap advocates a dangerous gangster culture (in SOME cases). One is malignant and the other is stagnant
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Rap is popular among all kids, and encourages good kids to join gangs, metal is only popular among the loser goth kids who are more likely to flip out and kill people anyway...
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Metalheads hate Goths and vice-versa Originally Posted by the_mango55
Rap is popular among all kids, and encourages good kids to join gangs, metal is only popular among the loser goth kids who are more likely to flip out and kill people anyway...
JK!
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I don't know why a lot of bands have violent names but they are almost all anti-violent I have seen napalm death i concert for exemple and one of the first thing they stated is how napalm death is an anti war band and taht how they think the war in Irak is stupid and all
and usually those bands have anti violence lyrics too.
exemple:
megadeth-holy wars
Brother will kill brother
Spilling blood across the land
Killing for religion
Something I don't understand
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kreator-impossible brutality
All I see is Terror
All I see is pain
All I see is mothers dragging children to their graves
A curse as old as time, An armageddon misery
Spectators of a World in ruins
so I do not think metal has a bad influence but there is some exeptions and all -
Not true Originally Posted by the_mango55
Rap is popular among all kids, and encourages good kids to join gangs, metal is only popular among the loser goth kids who are more likely to flip out and kill people anyway...
JK!ON the matter of the dead some luaghed but other said we will see thee on this matter again.
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Anyway, a lot of Metalheads complain about how Metal is targeted for it's percieved encouragement of violence whereas rap is ignored.
The thing about most of the bands that you highlighted is that they're underground and their following consists of people usually over the age of 18.
Vio-lence, Annihilator, Overkill, Artillery, Slayer and Nuclear Assault are all *classic* Thrash bands and are appreciated for their music rather than the "violence they preached". If you check out the lyrics of Nuclear Assault, they're almost always either political or anti-war. Artillery sing about Orwellian themes. Sodom is also an anti-war song - read the lyrics to the song, "remember the fallen".
The only band from that list that actually promotes hatred is Graveland (a one-man Black Metal band that promotes Woatanism/White Supremacy).
You must always keep in mind that Metal has always been against the mainstream. So where the mainstream is religious, Metal is anti-Christ, anti-God - it's just normal for it. However, unlike rap, it doesn't encourage drug-abuse, sex with multiple partners, oral sex with multiple partners, killing "gangstas" and looking at the police as your enemy.Death be not proud, though some have called thee
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Thats if the lyrics are actually audible - i for one listen to metal mainly for the musical skill. for lyrics there are far better bands and styles.
"The only band from that list that actually promotes hatred is Graveland (a one-man Black Metal band that promotes Woatanism/White Supremacy)."
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Nope, white metal is for christian blackmetal bands Originally Posted by rez
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Bands like Graveland(that makes ok musik in my book) and usually known as NSBM(National socialist black metal)
*coughs* I guess you didn't notice these guys, "Nocturnal Mortum" who are far more extreme then Graveland.The only band from that list that actually promotes hatred is Graveland (a one-man Black Metal band that promotes Woatanism/White Supremacy).
Of course the name is spelled wrong, it is Nokturnal Mortum.
Nokturnal Mortum is excellent btw.
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people beleive that rock and rap influence people WAAAAY too often. Sure music has a impact on kids but its mental effects are generaly temporarily.
Ever wondered why in weight training places alot of people listen too angery music, because it self empowers you too and extent. the same waylight music can make you feel comfortable other music can do the opposite.
the point is that although music does influence culture its because of the artists and not the mbands and music itself.many kids act that way because they see it in the surrounding culture that is that way for a huuuuge list of reasons
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Listening to metal never made me want to kill someone or worship the devil.
I am a metalhead and I dislike goths with a passion. A real goth (not a trailer park witch and her homo boyfriend) will not like the absolute brutality that is a band like Slayer. A metalhead, like myself, loves that brutality.Metalheads hate Goths and vice-versa
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Yes, most of these bands have anti-voilence in their lyrics - Death, Artillery, Kreator, and so on. Behemoth's lyrics are philosophical. Not many kids listen to those bands seeing as they've been around 20 years. I play this sort of music, and my band mates are usually around 30-35. The other guitarist is 34.
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Atleast its music... And if pop was popular no children would get born, everyone would be gay!
Im young and like metall, and i aint a goth ore dark rocker..
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You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking? -
Hey atleast rap supports healthy life (except for the weed), i aint never seen a skinny rapper with greasy hair an pants so tight that hes blood doesn't circulate properly.
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Haha and you cant say the same with metall?:S Originally Posted by Tacitus Cornelius
And wtf! Healthy life? Rappers are so weak that they bring guns to fights! They are like the turks in sweden!You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking? -
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There's also plenty of rappers with average bodies and even obese ones... Fat Joe, Suge Knight, Big Pun (who, according to Wikipedia, died of a heart attack in 2000), the Notorious B.I.G... Originally Posted by Tacitus Cornelius
And speaking of dead rappers, Tupac isn't exactly an example of a healthy person either
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The "goth" looks more like a punkrocker then a goth to me.
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That's because it is, and he also posted all new pics of rappers and an 80s pic of Iron Maiden. Why not post a pic of Death, or Testament from back then? THey look....normal, jeans....t-shirt. Originally Posted by TB666
Rappers in the 80s :laughing: Hugeeee fros, greasey hair, Parachute pants..... :laughing: (The iron Maiden pic was after a show...it's called sweat.)Member of S.I.N."Our civil rights have no dependence upon our religious opinions more than our opinions in physics or geometry." --Thomas Jefferson
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Well I do not think that NWA has greasy hair.
http://www.b-boys.com/images/oldschool/nwa.jpg
http://www.popmatters.com/music/revi...a-straight.jpg
