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    One would expect a given US based organisation to only offer criticism to Iran, but apparently Iran's economic policies have won some praise. Despite the punitive sanctions that US and Europe have placed on Iran (which comes to show the potential of Iran given it was functioning without such restrictions), it has still been able to make adequate strides in its economy. Though, in the end, Iran still has economic problems, no question, but given its conditions both internally and externally it's interesting to see some of the progress is has been able to make economically, e.g. decreasing a high inflation. Of course the article states differing views on the progress that has been made.

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    Iran, Long Seen As An Economic Basket Case, Wins Praise From IMF
    by Robert Tait

    If you were seeking endorsement of Iran's economic policies, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) hardly seems like the ideal reference point.

    The Washington-based institution is, after all, renowned for zealously promoting programs of public spending cuts and economic liberalization. Iran, meanwhile -- at least under President Mahmud Ahmadinejad -- has repeatedly forecast the imminent end of the global capitalist system.

    Yet the IMF's latest report on the Iranian economy represents a surprising departure from expectation by lauding the Islamic regime's success in cutting inflation and praising the sweeping abolition of subsidies introduced by Ahmadinejad's government.

    "Real GDP growth recovered to an estimated 3.5 percent in 2009/10 despite the drop in oil prices. The positive growth momentum continued in 2010/11," states the report, which was based on the visit of an IMF mission to Iran between May 28 and June 9.

    It goes on to praise the "authorities' monetary policy" in bringing inflation down from 25.4 percent in 2008/09 to 12.4 percent in 2010/11.

    On Ahmadinejad's subsidy reform plan -- which ended a range of lavishly generous subsidies on a wide range of items in December 2010, provoking bitter rows between the president and Iran's parliament -- the report is positively effusive.

    "The mission commended the authorities for the early success in the implementation of their ambitious subsidy reform program," it writes. Price rises in areas like energy, public transport, wheat, and bread have resulted from the removal of $60 billion of subsidies, according to the report. But as a result, it adds: "The redistribution of the revenues arising from the price increases to households as cash transfers have been effective in reducing inequalities, improving living standards, and supporting domestic demand in the economy."

    At Odds With Popular View

    The report acknowledges that the abolition of subsidies could result in "transitory" economic slowdown and "temporary" spikes in inflation but is upbeat in saying "it should considerably improve Iran's medium-term outlook by rationalizing domestic energy use, increasing export revenues, strengthening overall competitiveness, and bring economic activity in Iran closer to its full potential."

    The portrait seems at odds with the popular view of Iran's economy, which is commonly described in the West as sick, mismanaged, and under-performing. A recent report from the Heritage Foundation, a Washington-based conservative think tank, labeled Iran's economy "repressed" and ranked it 171st out of 179 countries in a league table for economic freedom.


    Anecdotal accounts from inside the country frequently depict an economy that is stagnant and lumbered with persistently high unemployment, leaving a population laboring under rising prices and depressed living standards.

    Independent economists, too, question whether the IMF report paints an accurate picture.

    Mehrdad Emadi, an Iranian economic specialist with the London-based Data Matrix Systems, says the fund is wrong about Iran's inflation rate, which he believes is closer to 30 percent. The discrepancy, Emadi believes, is because the fund's economists have had access only to selective data provided by Iranian officials.

    "The data is entirely government data. They don't make any references to commercial sources," Emadi says. "Also, the data is not publicly available to even internal organizations -- organs like the parliament's budget commission. That does not necessarily mean the data is tarnished or not reliable. It just means that the data is not easily verifiable. Regardless of whether this was the U.S. government, the Iranian government, or the British government, if the data is not verifiable I feel uncomfortable about [these conclusions and analyses]."

    Only 'On The Surface'

    At the same time, the IMF may have taken the subsidy reform plan out of its proper local context, Emadi argues, by failing to identify the takeover of the Iranian economy by companies linked to the powerful Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC).

    "The IMF institutionally, they really like the idea of markets being pushed towards real prices, taking out distortions, which subsidies are. On the surface, Iran is trying to do that," he says. "But it's really not, because Iran is moving from a model of general subsidies to a model of income support for firms and organizations which are going to be now connected to us [the government] -- i.e., through a Revolutionary Guard network of firms, which are going to be getting everything at preferential rates. The IMF is looking at the picture it is getting and is ignoring what I would call the widespread creeping of Revolutionary Guard firms into the economy at every level."

    In fairness, Ahmadinejad's subsidy shake-up has been praised by other outside observers. In February, Suzanne Maloney, an Iran specialist at the Brookings Institution's Saban Center, called the reform a "serious and rational response" to Iran's economic problems with "the potential to spur a virtuous cycle of economic liberalization."

    "Most powerfully, the reforms could create a sense of individual ownership in the economy by giving Iranians greater control over the spending of the national wealth," she wrote.

    Yet to Jamshid Assadi, an Iranian economist at the ESC Groupe Business School in Dijon, France, such assessments fail to take heed of the parlous state of Iran's finances and their impact on ordinary citizens' living standards. Iran's Central Bank, Assadi believes, is running short of money -- leaving the government unable to provide the cash handouts that were meant to compensate for the subsidy cuts.

    "They even want to reduce the cash subsidies to the households," Assadi says. "They don't have money and they have said that some households who are well-off, we don't give them money and we give to the poor people. They consider that by the new calculation of the government, they are going to give money almost to less than one Iranian out of four. But the rate of poverty in Iran is much higher than the proportion of one of four."

    The report's most revealing aspects, according to Assadi, lie in what it omits to say -- by dint of the IMF's requirement to use diplomatic language and limit itself to official statistics. Beneath the apparently upbeat exterior, the findings are not really positive.

    "If you read carefully the report, it's not that positive," Assadi says. "It says, for example, the rate of growth is fantastic -- it's 3.5 percent. But 3.5 percent to anybody who knows that Turkey has a rate of growth much higher, it shows that Iran is not doing greatly. Almost every country around Iran is doing better. But the IMF is an official institution, so they cannot be very critical and very often when they get information and data, these are official information and data that they put in the report. So I really don't see a lot of positive things when I read this."

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    I thought this said IDF at first and was like "Well that is a surprise"
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    and the problem is? a future Yankee invasion to iran?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choki View Post
    and the problem is? a future Yankee invasion to iran?
    No, first we have to invade Argentina then we will go for Iran.

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    guess the europeans must be wanting in on iran's gas and oil

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    They should not face sanctions.They should be allowed get nuke energy to give them electricity.We are hypocrates imposing sanctions on them and letting Israel have nuke power and nuke bombs.

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    And what if nuclear material from Iran ends up in terrorist hands tom, then what? I'd prefer that a crazy mediebval theocracy does not get it's hands on such technology. It's bad enough that Pakistan has these weapons considering then growing instability of the country and the rise of Islamic militants in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralle18 View Post
    And what if nuclear material from Iran ends up in terrorist hands tom, then what? I'd prefer that a crazy mediebval theocracy does not get it's hands on such technology. It's bad enough that Pakistan has these weapons considering then growing instability of the country and the rise of Islamic militants in the country.
    I tough Iran fough terrorists ... And Pakistan and US suport terrorits. Oh yeah but we and our valiant pakistani allies are the good guys we are the good terrorists?

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    I tough Iran fough terrorists ... And Pakistan and US suport terrorits. Oh yeah but we and our valiant pakistani allies are the good guys we are the good terrorists?
    Iran arms Hezbollah and Hamas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanSoldier9001 View Post
    I tough Iran fough terrorists ... And Pakistan and US suport terrorits. Oh yeah but we and our valiant pakistani allies are the good guys we are the good terrorists?
    Iran has supported the Hamas and Hezbollah, in reality figthing a war by proxy against Israel. Were did I ever say the US was all good? Pakistan certainly isn't a worthy ally given their continuous support for Islamist groups like the Taliban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralle18 View Post
    Iran has supported the Hamas and Hezbollah, in reality figthing a war by proxy against Israel. Were did I ever say the US was all good? Pakistan certainly isn't a worthy ally given their continuous support for Islamist groups like the Taliban.
    Pakistan is important, the important thing is at least not to get on their bad side, even if they're not really 'allies' of the West. Keeping them out of the Iranian sphere of influence is top priority, just like it was a few decades ago with the Soviet Union.

    @Tom Cruise - How on Earth is Israel Iran's 'hostile enemy'? How about you live in Northern or Southern Israel in a period with Iranian-supplied Hamas or Hezbollah rockets shelling your city, then tell me it doesn't bother you? What did we do to Iran? The Iranian reigime is spiteful and hateful towards anything western or secular or Sunni, stopping the sanctions against them will make them all the more powerful and that is against the interests of the West and everybody who lives in a Western country.
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    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom cruise View Post
    They should not face sanctions.They should be allowed get nuke energy to give them electricity.We are hypocrates imposing sanctions on them and letting Israel have nuke power and nuke bombs.
    Except that Israel doesn't threaten other nations with destruction. Nor do they systematically murder their own citizens (nor any other citizens).

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Except that Israel doesn't threaten other nations with destruction. Nor do they systematically murder their own citizens (nor any other citizens).
    *cough*Palestinians*cough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notorious GSC View Post
    *cough*Palestinians*cough*
    Trolling much? Where's evidence that they systematically murder Palestinians? By the way, the term "Palestinians" may refer to any group living there for an extended period of time, including Jews. Care to be more specific?


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    But Israel still shouldn't have nuclear weapon capabilities, and I would say the rhetoric has been ugly on both sides.
    Israel didin't start it. They are only reacting to the Nazi rhetorics coming from the "Iranian" government and the very real Iranian sponsoring of the Hezbollah. This conflict actually was caused by Khomeini who was - apart from being a murderer and a child-molester - also a pathological Jew-hater.
    Iranian officials are spending tax money on financing terrorism while their own people are suffering from poverty. Such is the nature of the "Islamic Republic of Iran".

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Trolling much? Where's evidence that they systematically murder Palestinians? By the way, the term "Palestinians" may refer to any group living there for an extended period of time, including Jews. Care to be more specific?
    Arabian Palestinians. Jew can't be Palestinian.

    Look at Gaza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Israel didin't start it. They are only reacting to the Nazi rhetorics coming from the "Iranian" government and the very real Iranian sponsoring of the Hezbollah. This conflict actually was caused by Khomeini who was - apart from being a murderer and a child-molester - also a pathological Jew-hater.
    Iranian officials are spending tax money on financing terrorism while their own people are suffering from poverty. Such is the nature of the "Islamic Republic of Iran".
    Iran was founded on anti-West (more specifically anti-American ideals) as they saw those ideals as being the ones that had led to the corrupt Shah and an "immoral" society in Iran. Israel naturally quickly became an extension of this to Iran. However, with the aggressive rhetoric hasn't been one way. Naturally, Israel and US have both been also voicing violent tactics against Iran. Of course, Iran, especially in the religious establishment, makes some rather extreme statements as well that go over the line.

    Iran may be vehemently anti-Israel, but they actually have several functioning Synagogues in Tehran, and Jewish community that functions. Of course, problems exist if the Jews express any sort of contact with Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Except that Israel doesn't threaten other nations with destruction. Nor do they systematically murder their own citizens (nor any other citizens).
    But Israel still shouldn't have nuclear weapon capabilities, and I would say the rhetoric has been ugly on both sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Except that Israel doesn't threaten other nations with destruction. Nor do they systematically murder their own citizens (nor any other citizens).
    To be accurate, they simply go ahead with shelling and air raids, without a fanfare, I presume. And extra-judicial killing is a Mossad art form.

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    Only America should have nukes coz they will never use these evil weapons.No western government would.Only the backward middle eastern governments would as we are sooo superior to them.OH WAIT the USA dropped atomic bombs on Japan so i guess we are not that evolved.As a signed up menber of the non proliferation on nukes i think at least Iran allows inspectors in unlike our ally in the middle east.I mean we are hypocrates.I dont want Iran to have a nuke but if one country is allowed then so should the rest as its not fair.Russia has nukes and the fall of Russia was met with oh nooo what if Russian nukes get into the wrong hands and it never happened.These nukes are guarded by soldiers and are hard to use.I would say you need a degree in phisics to use them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom cruise View Post
    Only America should have nukes coz they will never use these evil weapons.No western government would.Only the backward middle eastern governments would as we are sooo superior to them.OH WAIT the USA dropped atomic bombs on Japan so i guess we are not that evolved.
    Congratulations tom, way to miss my point. I never said only the West should have nukes.

    Quote Originally Posted by tom cruise View Post
    As a signed up menber of the non proliferation on nukes i think at least Iran allows inspectors in unlike our ally in the middle east.I mean we are hypocrates.I dont want Iran to have a nuke but if one country is allowed then so should the rest as its not fair.
    Tom this insanely naive.International politics is anything but fair. They never have, never will,. Based on your logic, gangsters should be allowed to carry weapons because the police has them, because otherwise it's not fair. Lol at this logic. Not comparing Iran to gangsters btw, just an example.

    Quote Originally Posted by tom cruise View Post
    Russia has nukes and the fall of Russia was met with oh nooo what if Russian nukes get into the wrong hands and it never happened.These nukes are guarded by soldiers and are hard to use.I would say you need a degree in phisics to use them?
    The USSR collapsed in that regions broke away and declared independence and the Communist government was overthrown. If Pakistan collapses the result could be a civil war between islamic factions and the army. If Pakistani nukes end up in the hands of Islamists like Al Qaeda there is no guarentee such weapons won't be used in terrorist attacks. Again, it's naive to think there aren't people insane enough to use them. A state cannot use nuclear weapons because of the danger of nuclear retalition which would mean the destruction of the state. Terrorists do not have that concern. Since they have no state nuclear retaliation is out of the question.

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