TMW (The Medieval World) *suspended*

**medievaldude** · July 07, 2011, 05:52 PM

byzantine is the modern wording for these Greek-romans , romaion empire is better one reason because the people of so called "byzantine" still called themselves as the Romaioi or romans.

**knin** · July 08, 2011, 01:15 AM

Hey everybody, just wanted to give a quick update of where I'm at after today's work.

Today was a pretty slow day, I worked on adding/correcting rivers and quadruple checking city placements in Rus' and Poland. Other than that, I did some more research and have a basic outline of what I want to do with Eastern Europe region-wise in the next few days. I'm putting the list up here not only for critique but also for myself since the pile of random papers on my desk with little bits of information on different areas is getting out of control haha. Feel free to take a look and tear apart, that's what I'm here for!

(and I do apologize for the lack of correct diacritic markings, I'm lazy and tired (good combo) but I hope you get the gist)

Poland;5
Pomorze - Kolobrzeg
Wielkopolska - Gniezno (or Poznan)
Mazowsze - Plock
Malopolska - Krakow
Slask - Wroclaw

Prussia/Baltics;4
Prusija - Truso (or Twangste)
Samogitia(?) - Palanga
Curonia (or Latvija) - Riga/Duna Urbs (or Grobina)
Eesti - Lindanisa/Tallinn (or Varbola)

Hungary;4
? - Esztergom
Nyitra - Nyitra (or Kassa)
? - Varad
Erdely - Gyulafehervar

Wallachia;1
Patzinakia - Saka-katai

Croatia;3
Dalmacija - Zadar
Hrvatska - Knin
Dubrovnik - Dubrovnik

Bosnia;1
Bosna - ? (could be Vrhbosna, Visoko, Kotorac)

Serbia;3
Duklja - Skadar
Zahlumje - Ston
Raska - Ras

Byzantine Balkans;9
Hellas - Thebes
Thessalonike - Thessaloniki
Nikopolis - Naupaktos
Dyrrachion - Dyrrachion
Syrmion - Velegradha
Bulgaria - Skopia
Paristrion - Durostolon
Makedonia - Adrianopole
Thrakia - Konstininoupolis

Rus'; 17
Peremyshl - Peremyshl
Volyn' - Turov (probably, perhaps Vladimir or Pinsk)
Pskov - Pskov
Kiev - Kiev
Pereyaslavl - Pereyaslavl
Chernigov - Chernigov
Polotsk - Polotsk
Smolensk - Smolensk
Novgorod - Novgorod
Rostov - Rostov-Suzdal
? - Oleshye (right now my place holder is Dneiper Land...)
Saqsin - Khazaria
? - Khersones
Tmutar - Tmutarakhan
Cumania - Bila Vezha
Volga Bulgaria - Bolgar

Right now V-B is one huge province but I'll probably end up cutting out the northern section and giving it to a "terra nullius" sort of thing...more to come.

**Christonikos** · July 08, 2011, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by knin

Byzantine Balkans;9
Hellas - Thebes
Thessalonike - Thessaloniki
Nikopolis - Naupaktos
Dyrrachion - Dyrrachion
Syrmion - Velegradha
Bulgaria - Skopia
Paristrion - Durostolon
Makedonia - Adrianopole
Thrakia - Konstininoupolis

There are going to be many objections...
Anyway, the region Naupaktos is builded is called Nikopolis? That's another city. And I 'm not sure whether they called the city Naupaktos back then, or Epachtos. Latins, who improved the castle and gave it the final form, called it Lepanto. Here are some infos-->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nafpaktos

Greek to English translation

The first castle in its present position of Lepanto was at least the time of the Pelasgians. At the same bastion inhabited later by the ancient Greeks. The castle took its present form after the intervention of the Venetians, who occupied the city in 1407 AD Interventions that were made by the Ottomans. This is a great castle, connected directly to the city as a part of it. It consists of five tiers that form four parallel teichopoiies. These are surrounded by walls that begin uphill from the sea on both sides of the hill surrounding the peak. It is one of the best preserved castles in Greece. Within its walls we encounter today many monuments of all historical periods. The castle was never conquered by would-be conquerors and changed whenever the dominant city, it was then capitulation. Part of the castle is the fortress port of Nafpaktos.

BTW: An important point in the course of history is the year 217 BC, when, in the hollow of Lepanto, a peace conference call and unity, and heard the word of gregarious, warned that the storm was coming from the West. Nafpaktos, eventually came under the possession of the Romans. In post-Christian centuries, many barbarians, such as Huns, Slavs, Bulgarians, Saracens, looted the area of Lepanto, leading them to obscurity and financial ruin. In 1210, the city annexed to the dominion of the continent, when it begins its development.

**NikeBG** · July 08, 2011, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by Christonikos

There are going to be many objections...
Anyway, the region Naupaktos is builded is called Nikopolis? That's another city.

Yes. There are several Nikopolises, just as there are several Belgrads, several Targovishtes etc. For more information on the Byzantine thematas - Wiki or map.

**Christonikos** · July 08, 2011, 07:17 AM

So, the regions' names are acrually the themata's names?

**NikeBG** · July 08, 2011, 08:40 AM

It seems so and it's what I'd do myself.
Btw, there are some typos in the names, like Konstininoupolis, though I guess those will be edited out when the final research is being done.

**knin** · July 08, 2011, 11:55 AM

Indeed, I'm using the themata names as region names. Sorry for the typos, I was half-asleep typing that last night and wasn't paying a whole lot of attention, rest assured they'll be fixed in game. And now, a few pictures for everyone. These are city placement maps, the region borders are placeholders for now.

Poland