TMW (The Medieval World) *suspended*

[knin]

Last Updated: 12/27/2011

Latest Version: TMW 0.4 (10/22/11) - Download here!
Latest Patch: TMW 0.48 (11/22/2011) - Download here! - requires Version 0.4 to play!


Attention! The Medieval World: A Kingdoms Mod needs your help! If you're a modeller, skinner, researcher, scripter, coder, or have pretty much any modding talents and are willing to help see this mod release a new version by the end of this year, please don't hesitate to either post in the thread or shoot me a PM.



A quick map comparison:

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Vanilla M2TW

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TMW Map

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The Goal:
Now that I have the new map up and running, it is time to turn our attention to units, unit recruitment, local flavor, and scripting. Each faction will receive an overhauled unit roster, through a combination of borrowing from other excellent mods like Rusichi and BC, as well as original units created by members of the team. The unit recruitment system will be streamlined and rely on characters and other building trees in order to occur. Scripting will be the last, and most time consuming, aspect of the mod, but it will add a great deal of realism, challenge, and immersion to our finished product.

Faction List:

Kingdōm ofe Englaland
Royaume de France
Imperium Romanum Sacrum
Repùblica Vèneta
Spain Reinu de Llión y Castiella
Regnum Siliciae
Milan Compagna Communis Ianuensis
Rìoghachd na h-Alba
Basileía tôn Rhōmaíōn
Russia Gospodin Velikiy Novgorod
Moors Imṛabḍen
The Turks Büyük Selçuklu Devleti
Egypt al-Fātimiyyūn
Danmaurk Riki
Królestwo Polskie
Magyar Királyság
Patrimonium Sancti Petri
Minor Factions (Rebels)

New Factions:

Rus'
Norðvegr Riki
Royaume de Bourgogne
Kneževina Srbija
Cuman-Kipchaks
České království
Reino d'Aragón
Sak’art’velos Samep’o
Rum Selçuklu Devleti
Ta'ifa Ishbiliyya
Zīryūn
Repubblica di Pisa
Kilikio Haykakan Tagavorutyun

New as of 11/28/2011: UIs by Zames!

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European

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Middle Eastern

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New as of 11/27/2011: Strat Map Captains and Generals by Zames!

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Northern European

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Southern European

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North African

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New as of 11/10/2011: Final Map Pictures!

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England & Wales

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Scotland

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Ireland

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Denmark

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Norway

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Svealand

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Rhine Valley

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Northern France

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The Alps

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Northern Italy

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Southern Italy

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Northern Spain

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Southern Spain

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Tunisia

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Nile Delta

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Cilician Armenia

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Azerbaijan

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Western Turkey

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Southern Balkans

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Pannonian Plain

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Estonia

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The Team:

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Knin - leader, coder, mapper
Zames - 2D artist
Ixor_Drakar - creative design, text editor
Xoxoman - modeller
blur1811 - 2D artist
Johan Maurits von Nassau - research
The Norseman - modeller, skinner
Takverely - 2D art

Acknowledgements, Credits, and Helpers:

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Strelac and Alpha Delta - unit permissions for Broken Crescent
Rusichi: Total War - units, models permissions
Csátadi, dome, and Magyar Mod - unit permissions
CBUR - unit permissions
CSUR - unit permissions (Mr. Crow)
Charge - MapMod: Trees, Textures, Sea V 1.7
dannyxx30 - SM:STT Tex V1 update to Charge's textures
Gigantus - for all his helpful hints, tutorials, and desire to help new modders
Giorgios - creative design, historical research
NikeBG - historical research, Balkan geography
Dan the Man and Grymloq - (mini and full) AARs to promote the mod features
Rus-Bey - historical hints and symbols input
Heathen Storm - historical research and Scandinavian geography
ALFAJI - Arabic translation help
banzaiec - Russian translation help
VI.Mithridates - Turkish translation help
Takverely - Georgian translation help
ahowl11 - research
maximius serbus - Serbian names via Character Names Project Forum
Fair Prince - Stainless Steel Names Overhaul Project (SSNOP)
Contributors to SSNOP:

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Arabic names (Almoravids, Fatimids): HbHadast and MehemtAli_Pasha
Danish (Denmark): Meneth and Christian Goth
English (England): Graeme and Rozanov
French (France): princeps.omnis and loet66
Georgian (Georgia): Tadzreuli
German (HRE): Bernem and Fred Putz
Greek (Byzantines): Manuel I Komnenos and koultouras
Hungarian (Hungary): Fair Prince
Italian (Genoa, Venice): Spartan 666, Principe Alessandro and Grymloq
Italian / Sicilian (Sicily): Freelancer Tex and davsim
Latin (Papal States): Fair Prince
Norwegian (Norway): Meneth
Polish (Poland): szelbisz
Russian (Kievan Rus, Novgorod): CarbEast
Scottish Gaelic (Scotland): Fair Prince and Copperknickers II
Spanish / Aragonese (Aragon): brennas
Spanish / Castilian (León & Castile): Bucefalo
Turkish (Seljuks): Ozzmozis and nuel92
Turkish / Kipchak (Cumans): Ozzmozis and princeps.omnis

EVERYONE WHO HAS DOWNLOADED - THANK YOU!

[knin]

Sorry for the double post, just wanted to bump this up because I edited the first post to more concretely define the goals of this mod as well as to provide some teaser screenshots of my new map. Enjoy!

[knin]

Over 150 views and nobody has any comments? Please guys, even if it sucks, let me know. Bumped to show progress in France and HRE.

[Heathen Storm]

Good luck with your project mate! I would suggest adding more then one city in Denmark though. Ribe, Aarhus (Which you already have, it looks like) and I would also add Roskilde. In Norway, depending on how many you wanted your settlements could be Oslo, Nidaros, Trondheim, and Stafangr. In Sweden, your cities could be Uppsala, Visby, Kalmar, and Goteborg.

[Pharoah]

Nice

[knin]

Many thanks, you two. Heathen_Storm, would you say the four most important Danish settlements at this time were Lund, Roskilde, Aarhus, and Ribe? I hadn't considered Ribe before, though I have been weighing Odense. And with regards to Oslo, I've found very little evidence that it was the most important settlement in the area around 1080...Tonsberg seems to be more appropriate. Nidaros and Bergen are on my list though. In Sweden, I suppose Goteborg would be in province Gotaland, and Kalmar could be Smaland? (Uppsala would probably be Svealand, just because Uppland is too narrow an area)

[Heathen Storm]

Many thanks, you two. Heathen_Storm, would you say the four most important Danish settlements at this time were Lund, Roskilde, Aarhus, and Ribe? I hadn't considered Ribe before, though I have been weighing Odense. And with regards to Oslo, I've found very little evidence that it was the most important settlement in the area around 1080...Tonsberg seems to be more appropriate. Nidaros and Bergen are on my list though. In Sweden, I suppose Goteborg would be in province Gotaland, and Kalmar could be Smaland? (Uppsala would probably be Svealand, just because Uppland is too narrow an area)

Honestly there are many more important then Lund in Skåne... such as Borgeby or Trelleborg. Both were Viking ring forts (known as "Trelleborgar") built by Harald Bluetooth 100 years before the start of the game... but they were far more important obviously, being fortresses, so I would recommend Borgeby. Odense was little more then a large village and continued to be to this very day. Looking around, I would say for your time period Viborg, Aalborg (called Alabu at the time) and Roskilde, although if you have more room i would suggest adding Ribe and Jelling because those are two important settlements as well.

Oslo was an extremely important city during the reign of Olaf III of Norway, who was the ruler during this time. Tonsberg could be added as well as it was a very large fortification even during the Viking Age, so it could be important for the Norwegian faction as well.

Göteborg should be in the province of Västergötland. Kalmar could be in Smaland or even Östergötland if you wanted. I would also suggest adding the city of Visby, on the Island of Gotland. It was a very rich city, due to its proximity of every Baltic trade route available. Uppsala could either be Uppland or Svealand, I suppose its personal choice. Either would work excellently.

[knin]

Honestly there are many more important then Lund in Skåne... such as Borgeby or Trelleborg. Both were Viking ring forts (known as "Trelleborgar") built by Harald Bluetooth 100 years before the start of the game... but they were far more important obviously, being fortresses, so I would recommend Borgeby. Odense was little more then a large village and continued to be to this very day. Looking around, I would say for your time period Viborg, Aalborg (called Alabu at the time) and Roskilde, although if you have more room i would suggest adding Ribe and Jelling because those are two important settlements as well.

Oslo was an extremely important city during the reign of Olaf III of Norway, who was the ruler during this time. Tonsberg could be added as well as it was a very large fortification even during the Viking Age, so it could be important for the Norwegian faction as well.

Göteborg should be in the province of Västergötland. Kalmar could be in Smaland or even Östergötland if you wanted. I would also suggest adding the city of Visby, on the Island of Gotland. It was a very rich city, due to its proximity of every Baltic trade route available. Uppsala could either be Uppland or Svealand, I suppose its personal choice. Either would work excellently.

Ok so based on that, here's what I've got: (city, province)

Denmark:

Aarhus, Jylland (or Aalborg?)
Ribe, Slesvig
Roskilde, Sjaelland (is there a better name for all the islands?)
Borgeby, Skane

Norway:
Oslo, Fold (could potentially split off Tonsberg for Vestfold)
Bergen, Hordaland
Nidaros or Trondjeim, Troendalog (it seems to be just north of my map, but I think I can squeeze it in)
Hamarr, Heidmork (seems like I need a 4th province north of Oslo south of Trondheim)

Sweden:
Goteborg, Vastergotland (According to this article, Goteborg was known as Loedoese in its early history)
Kalmar, Smaland (or Ostergotland)
Visby, Gotland
Uppsala, Svealand
5th city in south central sweden (i.e. around or between the lakes)?
any major settlements north of uppsala to cover that extra area?

I'm trying to find Old Norse names for every city/province since the articles I've read seemed to indicate the language was still in use at the time (especially in Norway).

[Heathen Storm]

Ok so based on that, here's what I've got: (city, province)

Denmark:

Aarhus, Jylland (or Aalborg?)
Ribe, Slesvig
Roskilde, Sjaelland (is there a better name for all the islands?)
Borgeby, Skane

Norway:
Oslo, Fold (could potentially split off Tonsberg for Vestfold)
Bergen, Hordaland
Nidaros or Trondjeim, Troendalog (it seems to be just north of my map, but I think I can squeeze it in)
Hamarr, Heidmork (seems like I need a 4th province north of Oslo south of Trondheim)

Sweden:
Goteborg, Vastergotland (According to this article, Goteborg was known as Loedoese in its early history)
Kalmar, Smaland (or Ostergotland)
Visby, Gotland
Uppsala, Svealand
5th city in south central sweden (i.e. around or between the lakes)?
any major settlements north of uppsala to cover that extra area?

I'm trying to find Old Norse names for every city/province since the articles I've read seemed to indicate the language was still in use at the time (especially in Norway).

I would say this (with old norse)

Denmark:

Alabu, Nordjylland
Ribe, Sønderjylland
Jelling, Jylland
Hróskilði, Sjælland
Borgeby, Skåne


Norway:

Åslo, Vingulmörk
Túnsberg, Vestfold
Bjørgvin, Hǫrðafylke
Niðarós, Hálogafylke
Hamarr, Heiðmǫrk

Sweden:
Göteborg, Västergötland
Kalmar, Småland
Visby, Gutland
Uppsala, Uppland

There you are mate

[knin]

Norway (will finish this later... too tired.)

Haha I totally understand; I want to work on this mod every free minute I have but even I hit the wall about 1 A.M.!

Anyway, while Heathen and I have been discussing Scandinavia, I've also been working on the Iberian penninsula using overlay techniques with 4 different medieval maps to create my region blueprint. Combined with some heavy duty research yesterday and this morning, I think I've got a pretty solid lineup for Iberia ready to go, I now just need to go through the tedium of finishing out the blueprint maps and then implementing it on top of my existing region map.

Here's what I have: (city, province)

Leon, Leon
Compostella, Galicia
Burgos, Castille
Coimbra, Coimbra
Pamplona, Navarra
Jaca, Aragon
Barcelona, Catalunya
Zaragoza, Zaragoza
Valencia, Valencia
Murcia, Murcia
Granada, Andalucia
Toledo, Toledo
Badajoz, Badajoz
Silves, Silves
Cordoba, Cordoba
Sevilla, Sevilla
Mallorca, Balaeres

all names are subject to update and change, especially the southern ones since I need to change them to their Arabic forms.

Also, it looks like Portugal is going to be out of this mod. The county of Portugal was firmly under the control of Alfonso VI of Leon and did not become semi-independent until 1093, much less powerful enough to warrant its consideration as a full faction until much later than that. I'm weighing a few options for replacement, one being Navarra the other being Sevilla.

The Taifa of Sevilla was the most powerful of the scattered successors to Al-Andalus and did not call up help from the Almoravids until the late 1080's-1090's. At its greatest extent just before 1080, it had absorbed numerous other Taifas including Algarve (1051), Silves (1063), Cordoba (1077), and Murcia (1078).

Navarra was the other major Christian kingdom in Spain along with Leon-Castille (what vanilla called Spain) and so would help to provide an additional counterweight against Moors in the south but I wonder if that would make northern Spain a little too crowded.

Input anyone?

[TMK]

Very nice start! Keep going!: +rep

[Polycarpe]

I wish you good luck with your project.You got a nice start with the map. +rep

[Christonikos]

Since it is mostly a map mod, you won't make any changes to reqruitment system and unit rosters, will you? Anyways, good job.

[knin]

Many thanks everyone, your praise is very much appreciated. @Christonikos - As of now, correct, I will not be making any major changes to recruitment system or unit rosters other than some rebalancing based on the updated relative strengths of each faction. However, if I can get through the mapping and expand this mod into incorporating new factions as I mentioned in the OP, then yes, I will certainly look more closely at a unit update.

On that note, my request for mappers, modellers, artists, etc. is still very much alive as I continue to expand this mod. Anyone willing to help is most definitely welcome to join this mod.

[nessj999]

which factions will be new ?
because when you use only the 16 from the original campaign, and

Rus'
Sweden
an Irish nation
another Caliphate

you would have only 22, which would allow you 9 more factions.. but
be aware, new factions need new units..

[knin]

which factions will be new ?
because when you use only the 16 from the original campaign, and

Rus'
Sweden
an Irish nation
another Caliphate

you would have only 22, which would allow you 9 more factions.. but
be aware, new factions need new units..

Hmm...I suppose I should get a faction list going, eh? And yeah, factions need units, which would require people, since I have no experience modding units other than their text files. I'll add a faction list to the OP.

[medievaldude]

Continue on! You are inspiring me to mod even more now

[knin]

Continue on! You are inspiring me to mod even more now

I shall! And I am very glad to be of inspiration

EDIT: Iberia is up.

[Grymloq]

Good job! Keep it up!

[knin]

It appears that with the temporary outage earlier this afternoon that several posts were deleted from the cache. Someone was asking me about permanent forts, which I admit I don't know the mechanics of. Would anyone care to explain?