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    Default Do some Muslims really believe in the story of Yakub?

    I was watching a documentary on extremist American Islamic groups and the story of Yakub came up. Yakub supposedly was some kind of necromancer who created the white race with the help of demons. According to the documentary, members of the Black Panthers and other extremist groups in the 1960s actually believed whites were the spawn of Satan sent into the world by Yakub to torture and humiliate devout servants of Allah.

    I'm not trying to create a flame post here but am curious if the story of Yakub appears in the Koran. It could be something that was made up by African American Muslims in the 1960s or it could be a similar story as the Jewish golem (in other words, a folk tale that never appears in sacred texts and few people take seriously).

    EDIT - I want to add that I personally don't think Yakub is accepted doctrine by most Muslims. Looking at so-called "Christian" White Supremacy groups, many neo-nazis have added truly warped ideas based on Norse paganism to their set of beliefs. I'm pretty sure the same is true in regards to the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam. However, I'm still interested to know if Yakub is mentioned anywhere in the Koran.
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    According to the Quran, Yaqub, who is known as Jacob in the Bible, was a prophet of God.

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    Yaqub, also Yacoub, is a prophet in the Qur'an. In the Bible he is known as Jacob.

    Yaqub was born to Ishaq (the biblical Isaac), and was thus the grandson of Ibrahim (the biblical Abraham). Yaqub was born in Canaan. Like his father and grandfather he was a prophet of God who preached the oneness of God. Yaqub had twelve sons and a daughter. His sons would go on to father the Twelve Tribes of Israel. Among his sons was another prophet named Yusuf (the biblical Joseph).


    Yaqub in the Qur'an

    The Qur'an does not give details of Jacob’s life, though it says he was a righteous prophet, and of the company of the Elect and the Good, who received inspiration from God (38:47, 21:75). God perfected his favor on Jacob and his posterity as he perfected his favor on Abraham and Isaac (12:6). He was a man of might and vision (38:45) and was chosen by God to preach the Message.

    The Qur'an stresses that worshiping and bowing to the one true God was the main legacy of Jacob and his fathers (2:132-133). The Qur'an states that salvation hinges upon this legacy rather than being Jew or Christian (See 2:130-141).
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    In the mythology of the black supremacist movement the Nation of Islam, Jacob's name is spelled Yakub. Instead of being seen as the father of the twelve tribes of Israel he is presented as an evil scientist who created the white race by genetic experimentation on an isolated group of the original black peoples of the world, conducted on the island of Patmos.
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    In his autobiography (ghostwritten by Alex Haley), El-Hajj Malik Shabazz (Malcolm X) notes that, in his travels in the Middle East, many Muslims reacted with shock upon their discovery of the doctrine of Yakub.
    I hope that answers your question.
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    Isn't Jacob the guy who lived in a whale? I think I heard that somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obershutze
    Isn't Jacob the guy who lived in a whale? I think I heard that somewhere.
    That's Jonah or Yunus in Arabic.

    For the thread topic. Eerr.. I think you're a bit confused. I think it's not Yakob (or Jacob in Chriatian form) but Yakut - Mak'ud (not sure the spelling). I'm not sure where the source but I things those creatures are suppose to be the sign of the end of the world, which includes, not in particular order :

    1. Dajjal (or anti-christ ?)

    2. Yakut - Mak'ud (some kind of creature which were found during the travel of Iskandar Zulkarnain (Alexander the Great ?) and were imprisoned under earth somewhere due to their destructive nature - uranium , neutron whatever that could be made in to nuclear weapons now)

    3. The sun will rise from the west (some kind of meteor hitting the earth to make the making earth change the spinning circle , or even a nucler explosion somewhere in the west where it will be as bright as the day)

    4. The coming of the Messiah (muslims believe that Jesus is not dead but only be accended and will come back to earth before Qiamat (and of days ?)

    Please note however that these things (in the () ) were not in the Quran. God only gives sign, but not in details.


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