Halting U.S. firearms trafficking in Mexico

[LaMuerte]

A link to a report by U.S. senators Dianne Feinstein , Charles Schumer and Sheldon Whitehouse.

A pretty chilling report about the US-Mexico Arms trade.

As an example of the type of arsenal being stockpiled by Mexican criminal
groups, on April 30, 2011, Mexican federal police found numerous weapons
behind the mirrors of a home gym in Ciudad Juárez including three anti-aircraft
guns, dozens of grenades, a grenade launcher, AK-47s, several makes of machine
guns and more than 26,000 ammunition cartridges.

Military-style weapons are readily available for civilian purchase
in the United States. Many of these are imported from former Eastern bloc
countries and then can be bought by straw purchasers and transported to
Mexico. In addition, some importers bring rifle parts into the United States
and reassemble them into military-style firearms using a small number of
domestically manufactured components.

Perhaps the death of 2 ICE agents in Mexico by los Zetas will really change something? Enough creepy stories coming from Mexico weekly , from narco-tanks , to mega internal cartel shootouts.(and worse)

[Pyrich]

Add this in as well IMO.






The story gets worse and worse with Gun dealers saying the Fed more or less told them to and actually help connect them in order to work with Cartels in smuggling guns in this stingerless sting. To which I reply. "WTF WASHINGTON... WTF ARE YOU PLAYING HERE. GRAHGHGHGHAGHR, /gurgling sounds of rage"

[Vanoi]

Only way to stop the gun trade is to first stop the drug trade. Why? Drugs get them money, and money is used on guns. Stop the flow of money and we stop the flow of guns.

[Pyrich]

Only way to stop the gun trade is to first stop the drug trade. Why? Drugs get them money, and money is used on guns. Stop the flow of money and we stop the flow of guns.

Any idea's how? Agent Orange? Napalm?


Also, Cartels do make alot of money from the drug trade, but its not their only income. Another popular thing is kidnapping, say you own a business in Mexico, cartles will kidnap you children, cut off several pieces and mail them to you and then tell you to talk to their lawyers and sign the business over to them if you want to see so and so again.

Its pretty common over there.


One thing of interest is Rick Perry's Texas Ranger Recon teams seem to be getting into more and more firefights on the border.



AUSTIN (June 9, 2011)—U.S. law enforcement officers exchanged gunfire early Thursday morning with drug runners while attempting to intercept boats loaded with drugs on the Rio Grande, the Department of Public Safety said.
The officers were participating in a multi-agency Texas Ranger Recon operation in Hidalgo County, the DPS said.

At least three suspected drug runners were wounded in the shootout, the DPS said.
Two law enforcement officers suffered minor injuries that weren't related to the gunfire during the shootout, the DPS said.
Early Thursday the U.S. officers spotted a suspicious vehicle on the U.S. side of the river along with two drug cartel recovery boats, the DPS said.
Three patrol boats the U.S. officers were using to attempt to intercept the cartel boats received heavy gunfire from the Mexican side of the border, the DPS said.
There were no reports of injuries among the U.S. officers.
Authorities in Mexico were notified about the abandoned cartel boats and were on the scene of the shootout late Thursday morning, the DPS said.
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, released a statement later Thursday in which he said despite administration assurances, “Cartel-related violence along our border is real and escalating, and the Administration cannot continue to deny it when American lives – particularly those of our law enforcement – are directly in harm’s way.”
The DPS scheduled a news conference Friday in Weslaco to talk about the shooting and the drug interdiction effort.

[mrmouth]

Any idea's how? Agent Orange? Napalm?


Also, Cartels do make alot of money from the drug trade, but its not their only income. Another popular thing is kidnapping, say you own a business in Mexico, cartles will kidnap you children, cut off several pieces and mail them to you and then tell you to talk to their lawyers and sign the business over to them if you want to see so and so again.

I dont know about the gun thing. There are two sides to the story. Ive seen solid evidence and arguments for both. I own a handgun, but I'm not a gun lover.


What is most disturbing about the situation is that there are maybe 100 actual cartel members across the board. The career criminals are the issue, and they will just go on to something else if the cartels are ever reduced to a significant degree. They are criminal opportunists who live in a part of the world where the reality is different. Violence is up close and personal from age 1. They dont sterilize death in Latin America.

And now they are violent killers. Most of which will inevitably try and enter the US.

[Pyrich]

I dont know about the gun thing. There are two sides to the story. Ive seen solid evidence and arguments for both. I own a handgun, but I'm not a gun lover.


What is most disturbing about the situation is that there are maybe 100 actual cartel members across the board. The career criminals are the issue, and they will just go on to something else if the cartels are ever reduced to a significant degree. They are criminal opportunists who live in a part of the world where the reality is different. Violence is up close and personal from age 1. They dont sterilize death in Latin America.

And now they are violent killers. Most of which will inevitably try and enter the US.

Oh those are the peons. The real power is etched into the political machine of mexico. Cartels are more than just your everyday thugs, even though the thugs is what we commonly see.

[Doge Domenico]

I dont know about the gun thing. There are two sides to the story. Ive seen solid evidence and arguments for both. I own a handgun, but I'm not a gun lover.


What is most disturbing about the situation is that there are maybe 100 actual cartel members across the board. The career criminals are the issue, and they will just go on to something else if the cartels are ever reduced to a significant degree. They are criminal opportunists who live in a part of the world where the reality is different. Violence is up close and personal from age 1. They dont sterilize death in Latin America.

And now they are violent killers. Most of which will inevitably try and enter the US.

They already have, a few months ago 6 people in my city were killed in one week over drug related cartel business.

[Millander]

brave guy

[Gelgoog]

The US has sold a ton of small arms to the mexican army and police over the years. Alot of these weapons "disappear" from armories and find their way to cartels. Then the mexican police cry that they traced weapons back to the US....well duh!

Military-style weapons are readily available for civilian purchase
in the United States. Many of these are imported from former Eastern bloc
countries and then can be bought by straw purchasers and transported to
Mexico. In addition, some importers bring rifle parts into the United States
and reassemble them into military-style firearms using a small number of
domestically manufactured components.

The amount of firearms sold via straw purchases and being smuggled across the boarder is very tiny. It is much cheaper to smuggle those weapons from south american countries.

The rest of that crap you posted is anti-gun BS spouted by brady campaign supporters. Diane Feinstein. is a notoriously supporter of gun control. She actually wants to take away all of our guns (her own words).

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out-right ban, picking up every one of them... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."
-feinstein.

Yet she herself has a concealed carry permit...WTF