Hate

[Archraze]

If always been interested about hate and have wondered about the moralility of it. For example is it right to hate someone or something. Is it right to hate evil? Is hate itself evil?
Would it be considered moral to truley hate something?

So basically I'm wondering about the moralilty of hatred.

[hellheaven1987]

You have freedom to hate something as long as you don't violate the law.

[basics]

" If always been interested about hate and have wondered about the moralility of it. For example is it right to hate someone or something. Is it right to hate evil? Is hate itself evil? Would it be considered moral to truley hate something? "

Archraze,

Hate is a strange word besides being an even stranger emotion. Most of us have used it as children never quite knowing or understanding what hate really is. As we get older and supposedly more wiser many of us use the word in replacement for dislike. But to dislike something is not necessarily hate and is not necessarily something that is longlasting as real hate can be.

As people who are fallen by nature, evil is as much a part of us as anything else. Indeed by will we can turn it on and off when the need arises yet it never leaves our systems. Just so we can do evil and hate ourselves for it or we can do evil and be proud of ourselves for that. Where morality comes in is because God has laid down rules of behaviour to guide us in what is right or wrong.

Most out there would probably disagree with that, stating that there is no God, yet funnily enough they inadvertantly follow the very same guidelines claiming that to be of their own knowledge but still open to evil doing of themselves. There is nothing moral in that at all. For example the Law of Moses states that the man or woman who lives by its every word from the beginning of his or her life to its end can claim to be moral but otherwise none can.

Now if what makes a person able to be evil can be taken out of their system, removed forever, become moral in every sense of the word, it follows that knowing from what he or she has been spared, they have every right to hate or dislike that from which they have been taken. Can it be done? The answer to that and the poster's question lies in Jesus Christ.

[justicar5]

" If always been interested about hate and have wondered about the moralility of it. For example is it right to hate someone or something. Is it right to hate evil? Is hate itself evil? Would it be considered moral to truley hate something? "

Archraze,

Hate is a strange word besides being an even stranger emotion. Most of us have used it as children never quite knowing or understanding what hate really is. As we get older and supposedly more wiser many of us use the word in replacement for dislike. But to dislike something is not necessarily hate and is not necessarily something that is longlasting as real hate can be.

As people who are fallen by nature, evil is as much a part of us as anything else. Indeed by will we can turn it on and off when the need arises yet it never leaves our systems. Just so we can do evil and hate ourselves for it or we can do evil and be proud of ourselves for that. Where morality comes in is because God has laid down rules of behaviour to guide us in what is right or wrong.

Most out there would probably disagree with that, stating that there is no God, yet funnily enough they inadvertantly follow the very same guidelines claiming that to be of their own knowledge but still open to evil doing of themselves. There is nothing moral in that at all. For example the Law of Moses states that the man or woman who lives by its every word from the beginning of his or her life to its end can claim to be moral but otherwise none can.

Now if what makes a person able to be evil can be taken out of their system, removed forever, become moral in every sense of the word, it follows that knowing from what he or she has been spared, they have every right to hate or dislike that from which they have been taken. Can it be done? The answer to that and the poster's question lies in Jesus Christ.

except that if you did follow biblical morality you would be a slave owning child killer.

[Archraze]

So Basics what your saying is that hate is inherent in humans and nothing can be done about it. And the only thing preventing hatred in people is a law made by God? If there is a god why would he create some magical law to prevent us from hating one another. God in the Old teastament seems to be a preety grumpy frog with a lot of hate issues.

Anyway good to hear, I just hope some more people can give me their views

[basics]

" So Basics what your saying is that hate is inherent in humans and nothing can be done about it. And the only thing preventing hatred in people is a law made by God? If there is a god why would he create some magical law to prevent us from hating one another. God in the Old teastament seems to be a preety grumpy frog with a lot of hate issues. "

That is the state of fallen man. By disbelieving God and therefore disobeying Him, man was cursed with a fallen nature of which evil and hate became part and parcel of life and not one of us was ever from birth exempt. You call God grumpy and there is a certain element of truth in that besides a lot more. His nature is such that He hates sin and that grumpiness you spoke of results in His wrath being held over us if we sin.

The magical potion is that that state of play is not necessary because He has provided a way in which the fallen nature can be eradicated thus bringing any sinner back into His loving care. He Himself provides the Sacrifice that the Law demands, this done to each that are called, in a very One to one basis. So yes, the only thing that can prevent hatred is to have Jesus Christ in your life.

[Ancient Aliens]

Hatred is a natural part of human emotion. As long as acting on it doesn't violate the law, let your hatred flow, I say!

[mw2xboxplayer]

Hatred is a natural part of human emotion. As long as acting on it doesn't violate the law, let your hatred flow, I say!

The above quote from AA is a perfect answer to your question. As long as your hatred doesn't culminate into physical destruction, feel free to express your emotions! (Responsibly)

[Dan the Man]

The view that I subscribe to, and the view I've always heard, is that hate is an evil thing and, thus, from the devil. By hating somebody else you are falling into his trap. God in the OT was never hateful. Vengeful, perhaps, but never hateful.
This calls to mind another thought though. Why are so many non-theists so caught up with God in the OT? It's called the OT for a reason and, quite obviously, things are different since then. God is no longer vengeful, but merciful.

[Stívarðr Reynitré]

Jesus washed the feet of Peter to remove the hate that he would store up inside of him after Good Friday...He gave it to him as a model.

"Let tomorrow worry about itself for tomorrow holds its own problems"

In other words, don't bear a grudge for any longer than you have to - life is too short.

That's all well and good, but I hold grudges that will last to my grave (that's my failure to God)

[basics]

" Jesus washed the feet of Peter to remove the hate that he would store up inside of him after Good Friday...He gave it to him as a model. "

esaciar,

Jesus washed the feet of the disiples as an example of what it is to serve others in love, never putting themselves on pedestals which the Sanhedrin did. If hate came into that it was because man at best hates certain things that need doing, the washing of one's feet being an example but the washing of someone elses feet that was something else that was not done by Jews as far as the cleansing rituals went.

One must never forget that these were Jewish men continually under the rituals of the Law and so to wash another was bad enough but to wash their feet was not of the best taste at all, especially if they had just been ritually cleansed themselves. This is shown in the parable of the good Samaritan where the passing Jews wouldn't dirty themselves by helping the fallen man whereas the Samaritan did. Their Law was more important than compassion.

But there is one other essential to come out of the washing of feet. The Jews were taught to hate Gentiles yet Jesus knew that under the New Testament in His blood, Gentiles would be admitted into His church which for the Jew presented problems as we now know. So as He washed their feet, He was showing them that to serve Him they had to be prepared to wash the feet of not just Jews but Gentiles as well, even though they didn't know that then.

[Vizsla]

Hate can lead to both moral and immoral actions. It, in itself, is morally neutral. It is a state of mind. Doing bad things because of a state of mind could be evil, but are not necessarily so. We are not judged by what motivates us to act. We are judged by what we do. Most of us deny or lack awareness of what truthfully motivates our actions.

There are people in this world whose actions deserve the consequences of the hate they have engendered in others. But then I was never able to grasp the Christian concept of Forgiveness. There are many people here on TWC whose words and actions show that they think similarly.

Hate can be a useful motivational tool. You can use it to achieve great things. It is a double edged sword, however, in that holding onto anger for a long time can cause damage to both the body and the mind. The safest course is to expunge it. The second safest course is to let it burn cold and only stoke the flames when you need to. The least safe course is to let it rule your life – the candle that burns twice as brightly burns half as long.

[Gobmech]

I think that the describing the way that any human feels towards another as "hate" is a dangerous thing to do. See, we feel in certain ways towards each other for specific reasons, and you can never sum up an opinion by simply "hate". The word does nothing as to describe the feelings involved - the cause, the process and the potential outcomes are not addressed at all. "Hate", in itself is a very weak term, with a definition that can be stretched endlessly, leaving it only usable with very strict moral codes.

Whether you believe in morality or not, before judging anyone you absolutely must look into why they feel as they do. You cannot pass judgement simply because someone "hates". This is why morals are dangerous - you end up labelling someone as "bad" even though they can justify their actions and thoughts.

[Col. Tartleton]

Hate is that feeling you get when your abhorrence for something peaks and you are overcome with a feeling to obliterate it at all costs. Hate is feeling that someone else cannot coexist in your universe and needs to be destroyed.

It's not nice.

When I use the word hate it's certainly hyperbolic.

[Daily]

The morality of it is sincere in my opinion. The feeling itself is really strong and I don't really think of all of those who say they hate things (Justing Bieber, vegetables etc) to really hate. They dislike it. Hate develop and evolve and often has a good reason.

I hate a few things in my life which I will delve into but Tartleton said it; obliterate!

[Ancient Aliens]

The morality of it is sincere in my opinion. The feeling itself is really strong and I don't really think of all of those who say they hate things (Justing Bieber, vegetables etc) to really hate. They dislike it. Hate develop and evolve and often has a good reason.

I hate a few things in my life which I will delve into but Tartleton said it; obliterate!

You don't understand, most people really do hate Justin Bieber. As Col. said, hate is when you reach the point where you cannot abide somethings existence in your universe; when you want to obliterate it. I speak for many when I say that I cannot abide it (Justin Bieber) in my universe, and if such an act was legal, it would have been obliterated a long time ago.

[Col. Tartleton]

Haha oh AA you crazy. JB could get it, she's a pretty girl although a bit boyish looking. She's got a great voice though...

I can't hate on him because he's done a track with with Raekwon and Kanye. I'm neutral. Hes nothing special but he's soooooooo much better than Solja boy and lil B. Lil B I would obliterate, JB can literally suck my nads. :p

[Ancient Aliens]

I can't hate on him because he's done a track with with Raekwon and Kanye. I'm neutral. Hes nothing special but he's soooooooo much better than Solja boy and lil B. Lil B I would obliterate, JB can literally suck my nads. :p

I can agree to this I suppose.

[Hilarion]

Hate is itself evil. However the rejection of evil is not necessarily accompanied by hate. I believe it was St. Gregory of Nyssa who once considered that we might pray for the devil, an admittedly radical notion on a subject (the possible salvation of the devil) that most theologians agree should not be contemplated and instead left up to God.

[Sir Winston Churchill]

"Holding on to anger/hate is like holding a hot coal with the intention of throwing it at someone else, you always end up being burned." -Buddha

I try to take that to heart. Hate is wrong and in the end futile. It will cloud your senses, ruin your day, and not once in the event will the object of your hate feel anything. It may even gain from your hatred.

It is better in my opinion, to not hate, but to try and heal. It actually is very true in alot of cases that by ignoring something evil, it tends to die out on its own without an audience to harass.