View Poll Results: Do you honestly consider yourself a helpful person?

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  • I believe I always got a helping hand for any soul (to help is always a virtue)

    16 59.26%
  • If someone ask nicly (humility or submission)

    4 14.81%
  • Only if it's worthy by my criteria (please specify)

    4 14.81%
  • Only if I get something in return (there is value for me in doing it)

    3 11.11%
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    Default Helping others

    What's your idea about helping others or do you have some dominant idea before helping others?

    I believe I always got a helping hand for any soul (to help is always a virtue)
    I love helping other poor souls. I recieve personal joy out of helping others and that helps them to achive great goals.

    If someone ask nicly (humility or submission)
    One has to submit to the helper, which is an important aspect of helping others and I won't help people who are going to derail from my way of helping.

    Only if it's worthy by my criteria (please specify)
    I have a citeria I go by when helping others. Things I will do warmly and others/things I will stand cold by - Even in death and depression for my closest companion.

    Only if I get something in return (there is value for me in doing it)
    There is a thank you involced, or indirectly money, service or some other things involved is one of the most important aspect for me to help others.



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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    I picked the first because I will always try to help someone who either looks like they need help or asks. I can think of the last thing I did to help someone. A man at a gas station asked me for a ride. It was around 3am and I do not trust people enough to be alone with anyone I don't know. So i told him I would call him a cab. He then continued on about how he can't pay for the cab. So I asked where he was going. I called the cab, told them the pick up and destination and asked for a price estimate. I gave him the nessecary amount of money and went on my way. Now I'm not completely naive. I understand that it is very likely he took my money and did not wait for the cab. But in the chance that he honestly did need a ride I helped regardless of what he could do with the money. If I was in that situation I would want the help. So I help people when I can. I had money to spare. So i helped. I remember before I left he asked me why I did it. I told him I liked to be nice.

    For a situtation on where I refused to help someone. I was standing in front of a hotel and a man came up to and asked me fro gas money because his crippled son was waiting in the car and they were on the way to get his medicine. Clearly, to me, this man was lying and tried to think of a story that people would sympathize with. Which I did not. But I may have been wrong to refuse. I will never know.
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    I prefer to help others to stand on there own 2 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiji View Post
    I prefer to help others to stand on there own 2 feet.
    And what if they're crippled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Bolingbroke View Post
    And what if they're crippled?
    Well as long as it's not their feet/legs that are crippled then it will probably work

    ... Or maybe we can compromise and use handstands
    Last edited by Taiji; June 13, 2011 at 09:56 AM.

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    I'll always help a man when he's down, so to speak. However, he has to be willing to help himself, I have no respect for people who complain/moan/whinge constantly without action, looking for handouts.

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    I prefer to help those who are willing to help me back in return or at least acknowledge my service to them, not just take advantage of my assistance and never say a sincere "Thanks".

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    Where is the "I help almost always but not always" choice? I assist others, but I don't exactly go way out of my way to do so (unless you are considering donating time at community charities/centers to qualify for that).

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    I only help those who cannot help themselves.

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    The correct answer is option 4. Even if you're helping for the sake of being good, you're doing it for that warm fuzzy feeling inside, not that that's a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Philp View Post
    The correct answer is option 4. Even if you're helping for the sake of being good, you're doing it for that warm fuzzy feeling inside, not that that's a bad thing.
    Some of us do help others based on rational concepts, such as bettering humanity. Although I agree, if ou do something just to feel good about it, you are doing it for a gain, even if it is an emotional one.

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    As a boy of 11 years old, I was curious as to how Africans on TV was always poor, as opposed to Europeans. I couldn't make it fly with the idea that some people were activly helping them, jet the Africans were stuck. Now I have a pretty good idea as to why (in regards to the absolute failure of foreign aid), and I sorta want to apply the same principles to my everyday life. I know it's a very complex topic and I've been stuck in for a while.

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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
    - The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.













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    I help because of a global need and no, sometimes when I do it I don't really ''feel better'' about it... especially when it's little drugged up kids in the streets, I know that if they survive they are tremendously conditioned into poverty, crime and death their chances are slim... but if none does anything is going to stay the same, I accept it nevertheless.

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    I used to try to help everyone I could that needed help. Then I realized how damned selfish people are and how much they take that for granted and not respect you for it. So now its only with people that really need help and if I'm the mood for it.
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    Helping individual people is ineffective and most of the time I would not and will not consider it. I find it better to help society as whole even if some are to be lost or sacrificed in the process. Its a of matter of numbers here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kjertesvein View Post
    If someone ask nicly (humility or submission)
    One has to submit to the helper, which is an important aspect of helping others and I won't help people who are going to derail from my way of helping.
    Depends on how you mean it.

    On one hand, they must realize that they have no right to your help. You can walk away without a single moral blemish.

    On the other, I would not help a man because he is wretched. There must be some value left in him, something I see worth saving.
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    I will tentatively say "Only if it's worthy by my criteria." I will not help somebody to achieve something that is against my moral code.
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    You're missing the fifth option:
    "Do you honestly consider yourself a helpful person?"
    - 5. Nope.

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