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    I live in Britain, but my parents were from India. Am I, not according to law but according to yourselves, a Brit or an Indian? (don't just use my example, btw, you may make your own )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus-Popat
    I live in Britain, but my parents were from India. Am I, not according to law but according to yourselves, a Brit or an Indian? (don't just use my example, btw, you may make your own )
    Well, I'd say you were a Brit of Indian ethnic origin, although I can't see how nationality matters as long as you're a nice person.
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    So, who do I support - Sir Arthur Wellesley, or the Tipu Sultan. (my avvy gives the answer, but looking for moral support here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus-Popat
    So, who do I support - Sir Arthur Wellesley, or the Tipu Sultan. (my avvy gives the answer, but looking for moral support here)
    No idea!
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    I'd say that your a Brit. Of course I live in the USA, where nearly no one is actually American, excluding the Native Americans. I myself am only the fourth or fifth generation of my family in the USA. I believe it was my great-great-great-grandfather (on my fathers side) who first came over to America before the American Civil War. I don't know who my first ancestor in America was on my mother's side because they changed to the surname Smith after immigration, try to trace that one. On my dad's side I'm German and on my mother's side I'm Ukrainian and Polish, now which nationality should I tell people I am descended from??
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    Its important to honor both.

    I for example am American by citizenship, but Irish by blood.
    So I honor America by being a Patriot but honor Ireland by keeping Irish Culture and Language alive in my family
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    being half iranian half british i like the idea of just being me. Although i like persian history more i do love the english culture. I dont see any problem with being both

    but if you had to decide who to support just decide who is more just and support them

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    Your a Brit, who can be proud of your families history in India. But above all your a Brit, and be loyal to Britain before India. I know I am loyal to the US before France, Ireland, or England
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    In my belief you should keep you heritage and beliefs from India, but when it come to the cricket you should be rooting for England! I think that you are British if you have lived here most of your life.

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    Mostly Irish and Hungarian (grandfather and grandmother on father's side were 100%, grandmother Irish and grandfather Hungarian), but I'm a mutt of other things... Italian and Filipino, mostly. I don't identify with any particular one though, as I am at most 25% anything. I'm not too proud of the United States right now, but I believe in the ideals in which it was founded.

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    At the end of the day it is for you to decide. Personally, I think you should honour the rich heritage you have inherited from both countries/cultures. You are very lucky in having that.

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    British citizen of Indian descent. Everybody who holds a UK passport is a British citizen regardless of race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman
    British citizen of Indian descent. Everybody who holds a UK passport is a British citizen regardless of race.
    On the outside, but it is what is inside that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus-Popat
    On the outside, but it is what is inside that counts.
    Thats entirely up to you. Being a British citizen does'nt mean you have to cut yourself off from your roots. If I for example emigrated to Australia, I would abide by the laws and customs of that land but I'd still be cheering for England when it came to the football or cricket.

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    At the seminary...I remember we were challenged to call ourselves Americans over our Armenian heritage. I mean, I *am* an Armenian-American, but at the core of it I feel I am an Armenian. I love the culture, the people, the community, and generic American-ness doesn't really cut it for me...I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus-Popat
    I live in Britain, but my parents were from India. Am I, not according to law but according to yourselves, a Brit or an Indian? (don't just use my example, btw, you may make your own )
    Well according to me you would be a Indian. I have meet people who's parents were from another country but came over here. Many were and deserved to be called (nationality). Now of at least one that I have meet and had indeed became friends with deserves to be called an American more then many. He is of Philippine decent. And he never mentioned it. He would say he was an proud American. Bought American wore American and etc... In the end he and I were set to head over with each other to boot camp then later to Iraq. However following some unseen events I wasn’t able to go so he went on and left one year in advance. The last time I heard from him he asked me when MGS3 would be coming out. So yea I believe that since people over there get lonely and write there loved ones, and friends messages that he has been KIA/MIA.
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    Thanks, CF. I dont like bashing a heartfelt post, but what is your point?

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    My point is that many who do come from another country tend to bring with them customs and traditions. Now this is fine. However there are nearly as many who tend to parade it around town, and in there new country. I have seen people fly the flags of there native country. They tend to think of them self not as Americans but as (Nationality). They will bash there newly adopted country and praise there old one. Within the last past two weeks I have seen more cars with German flags then American flags. They will get shirts with there flags, native words and were them before they would ever think or wearing the flag of the US. Hell I was down at Virginia beach once and I saw the stores carry more shirts with the Purto Rico flag and sayings on it over the Confederacy or even the US. I believe that one should not forget where they come from. Keep the customs within ones house. Have a flag in your room. But they should absorb the history of there new home. The good, The bad, and the ugly. For many have shed there blood to keep the flag a flying over there homes and country, and would be damned to see another one flying.
    This is not worded the best it could be but I was trying to keep it as if I was addressing all and not just you or the American immigrants.
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    I believe that whatever country you are strongest bound to emotionally shouldn't decide who you support.
    You can live in Britain, maybe love the country and culture more, but it doesn't mean that the British heroes are your heroes. Deciding who you prefer should be a question of morals. If you like the reasoning and actions of the Tipu Sultan more than the militaristic accomplishments of Arthur Wellesley, then there is nothing wrong with supporting him, even though he was an enemy of Britain.
    Many Germans loved their country in the early 1900s (before WWI), but they preferred the ways of the British Prime Minister over Kaiser Wilhelm. There was nothing wrong with liking another country's leader better than their own, even during the war.
    It didn't make them any less of a German citizen. :original:

    I am stronger attached to my Metis heritage, and am a supporter of Louis Riel, even though he fought against my country in a rebellion. I'm happy living where I am in a country with mixed-British culture, but I side with the French/Cree rebel leader. No one seems to see anything wrong with it.

    The only time where there are problems is during a war, where supporting an enemy leader can be bad for your well being, or just confusing.

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    i think i get what your saying CF, since when you immigrate to America your supposed to rennounce your citizenship of the previous country. So when you want to go to live in America, you should at least try to be an American. On the other hand - you should never forget or be ashamed of who you are where you come from. EVER

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