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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13739876

    Slutwalk London: 'Yes means yes and no means no'
    Men in hard hats paused from digging up Piccadilly to watch in stunned silence as the provocative procession marched past.

    They would not have dared to wolf whistle as women in stockings, bras and basques passed, clutching banners with statements like "cleavage is not consent".

    The women were among the up to 5,000 people organisers say took part in the UK's latest Slutwalk in London on Saturday.

    The protest movement was sparked by a Canadian policeman who advised students to "avoid dressing like sluts" to avoid being victimised.

    Since then, thousands of people worldwide have taken to the streets to highlight a culture in which they say the victim, rather than the abuser, is blamed.

    Whether wearing four-inch heels with "slut" painted on their chests, or jeans and trainers, the marchers were united in their message.

    Chants of "blame the rapist not the victim, doesn't matter what I'm dressed in" rang out above the roar of traffic.

    "Our culture needs to change - teach people not to rape, not how not to be raped," says 21-year-old student Rhiannon Frame.

    Double standards

    Some marchers said they knew victims of sex assaults, while others had experienced casual abuse from men who assumed their outfits made them fair game.

    "If you go to a club you can be grabbed on the behind three times in an evening by a bloke who thinks it's ok because you're wearing a short skirt. There's an assumption it's flattering," Sophie Durham, 23, said.

    Some said women experience double standards in which they are under pressure to look sexy, but are also expected to live chaste lives.

    George Legg (centre) was one of many men who walked in solidarity with female friends
    "There's a culture in which women are expected to put out but if they do, they're sluts. Women call other women sluts," Philippa Dunjay, 23 said.

    While the march was sparked by attitudes across the Atlantic, marchers said recent comments on rape by Justice Secretary Ken Clarke plus the low conviction rate meant the issue was relevant in the UK.

    Mr Clarke was forced to apologise after appearing to suggest some rapes were not as serious as others during a BBC interview on sentencing.

    Hannah McQuarrie, 25, said: "His comments were wrong. Any assault which invades someone's privacy or takes away the rights of their body is wrong."

    Gemma Bell, 35, said she once served on a jury in a rape trial in which the behaviour and dress of the victim was raised by the defence - a move which was just taken for granted at the time.

    "There was a suggestion the victim was in some way responsible, it was used as an expression of fault," she said.

    'Feminism is cool'

    While there were placards and leaflets by groups such as the Socialist Workers' Party and the London Feminist Network, many present were on their first-ever march.

    And some feel the outpouring of protest could mark a new chapter in the feminist movement which has not always been viewed positively by young women.

    The organiser of the London event was a 17-year-old sixth former, Anastasia Richardson.

    Lettie Williams and Ellie Rowe persuaded their mums to come along after seeing the march on Facebook
    Ms McQuarrie explained: "The way this has grown is very organic and really shows how big an issue this is. A lot of people are taking part who would not describe themselves as feminists, but they are doing it.

    "It's fantastic that this has had such a positive response from people and shows that feminism is cool even if it is not cool."

    Among the younger marchers were Ellie Rowe, 12, and Lettie Williams, 11, who persuaded their mums to come along.

    "We heard about it via Facebook, we need young people to understand what is happening," Ellie said.

    But the march was not the sole preserve of women. Men, some in bras, stockings and suspenders, also got into the spirit of the occasion to support the cause.

    George Legg, 21, was one of those who wanted to walk to show that most men respected women.

    "I am here in solidarity. I can control myself - I am attracted to women but I don't feel the need to pressure them."
    I have a feeling that George is out there to score.
    I think I am understanding less and less about the human race as time progresses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephodwyrm View Post
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    I have a feeling that George is out there to score.
    I think I am understanding less and less about the human race as time progresses.
    Can you be a bit more specific about what it is you don't understand please? I think it's pretty straight forward, so if we can identify the cause of the confusion I probably wouldn't mind helping.

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    what it is you don't understand please?
    The effects of reverse psychology.

    "Don't dress like sluts. I think it helps." ----> An army of women and men looking to score wearing underwear in the streets.

    Will we ever see:
    "Don't dress proper. I think it helps."----> An army of women and men wearing business attire on a 38 C summer day.
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    what's wrong with sluts?

    how else are most of the posters here ever going to get laid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    what's wrong with sluts?

    how else are most of the posters here ever going to get laid?
    Whores, they are two different things man.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    what's wrong with sluts?

    how else are most of the posters here ever going to get laid?

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    While I will never say that because the girls dress a certain way that they deserved to be raped/attacked or that they had it coming, at the same time it honestly boggles my mind that some women will say that the way they dressed had no bearing on what happened.
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    i really don't get why being a slut is such a stigma for a girl, especially in this day and age of so called sexual freedom; where the epithet may apply to any one wanting to brand a woman/girl as a hussy even if she's only slept with 2 men

    i mean sure it's nice the idea of purity and marrying a virgin la di da but in reality, especially in the western world, any decent chick will have lost their virginity by 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    i really don't get why being a slut is such a stigma for a girl, especially in this day and age of so called sexual freedom; where the epithet may apply to any one wanting to brand a woman/girl as a hussy even if she's only slept with 2 men

    i mean sure it's nice the idea of purity and marrying a virgin la di da but in reality, especially in the western world, any decent chick will have lost their virginity by 16
    Never underestimate the ugly, self-loathing prudes that want nothing more than to suck all fun out of life for others just because they're too ugly to attract a hottie. We have full political PACs devoted to the "concerns" of these people. Hypocrisy never dies - it just gets rebranded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoleCat View Post
    Never underestimate the ugly, self-loathing prudes that want nothing more than to suck all fun out of life for others just because they're too ugly to attract a hottie. We have full political PACs devoted to the "concerns" of these people. Hypocrisy never dies - it just gets rebranded.
    that is indeed a pity; i do feel this current era we're living in is so much more conservative than the 70s

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    This is a bit hypocritical, it's like me putting on nothing but purple spandex shorts and going on a heterosexualwalk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Aliens View Post
    This is a bit hypocritical, it's like me putting on nothing but purple spandex shorts and going on a heterosexualwalk.
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    I don't think it's a good way to put the point across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    I don't think it's a good way to put the point across.
    Works for virgin and/or under-age males though
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    I like sluts, keeps the day interesting
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    Let's try to keep the discussion a little closer to the topic.

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    "Feminism is cool"

    Um... Whats the point in male and female if we're all going to act like females?

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    'Feminism is cool'?

    not it's not

    it is what some of us men call a 'boner killer'.

    now, hellheaven yes we must define 'slut'
    cuz in my xp, it's mostly an epithet women use against each other; i've rarely heard the word 'slut' being thrown by a bloke unless he was jilted in which case the automatic swear word directed at a woman would be the 'c' word.

    as for what is a 'slut'-the dictionary says a promiscuous woman, but why should that be a bad thing?
    i say women must reclaim the word. " my name is _____ and i am a slut"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    'Feminism is cool'?

    not it's not

    it is what some of us men call a 'boner killer'.
    #1 prize for missing the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    #1 prize for missing the point
    Please elaborate on that point you are alluding to, if you will.

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