Civilian casualties of Nato bombing in Libya!!..

[The Noble Lord]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/183683.html

I guess civilian casualties are "collateral damage" since Nato is the one doing the bombing and all of that is fine since it is the "defenders of human rights and democracy" that are bombing an independent and sovereign country in front of the entire world. The biggest joke is when Gaddafi got accused of war crimes and "acts against the civilians" like he attacked France and Britain and bombed their civilians.
Seriously, this rampage by Nato should not go for any longer and unpunished!

[charles the hammer]

The Libyan government says NATO killed over 30 people in Tripoli in 60 airstrikes carried out on Tuesday. Nuff said.

[alhoon]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/183683.html

I guess civilian casualties are "collateral damage" since Nato is the one doing the bombing and all of that is fine since it is the "defenders of human rights and democracy" that are bombing an independent and sovereign country in front of the entire world. The biggest joke is when Gaddafi got accused of war crimes and "acts against the civilians" like he attacked France and Britain and bombed their civilians.
Seriously, this rampage by Nato should not go for any longer and unpunished!

[Lord Zhang Ku]

The source of the aritcle is saying what Gaddafi is saying, not what is the fact. For instance, Gaddafi said that a little girl that was in a hospital in tripoli was hit by a NATO attack, when in fact that she had been injured in a car accident, confirmed by one of the nurses who slipped a note to a reporter. Another lie by the Gaddafi regime is a crater they showed reporters that actually came from one of the bombs that Gaddafi bought from Russia. Believe anything this dictator says is tantamount to lunacy.

[boofhead]

NATO has probably killed more Libyan civilians in order to ''protect civilians'' than Gaddafi ever did in his alleged massacres.

[Lord Zhang Ku]

NATO has probably killed more Libyan civilians in order to ''protect civilians'' than Gaddafi ever did in his alleged massacres.

I doubt that immensely.

[boofhead]

I doubt that immensely.

I don't. NATO has used most of the heavy firepower in the conflict, including attacks on targets in civilian areas, so it is quite likely. Civilians get killed all the time in airstrikes, this is common knowledge.

[Lord Zhang Ku]

I don't. NATO has used most of the heavy firepower in the conflict, including attacks on targets in civilian areas, so it is quite likely.

And the Gaddafi regime hasn't apparently murderd tens if not hundreds of protestors before the conflict even began? When I say I doubt this, I mean that there are much fewer civilian casualities then Gaddafi would have you believe.

[Angrychris]

pretty sad but this is how the west was won. now the east is next. democracy and capitalism for all!

[Rome101]

Yeah, believing what a tyrant who kills his own people says is a wonderful idea.
Don't you think so, Hans?

[King Nud]

So how do you know, OP, that these "dead civilians" are not dead soldiers dressed up in civvy clothes? We don't.

[Rome101]

Boofhead, remind me what makes Qaddafi's reports reliable please.

[boofhead]

Boofhead, remind me what makes Qaddafi's reports reliable please.

Remind me what ever made the propagandist lies of the rebel scumbags reliable, please?

[SonOfOdin]

Remind me what ever made the propagandist lies of the rebel scumbags reliable, please?

Going by that mentality, we should all be serving monarchies and dictators again.
The majority of European nations are independent Democratic Republics nowadays mostly because of "rebel scumbags", I see no difference in Libya nowadays from European Revolutions in the 1800's.

[Enemy of the State]

Civilian deaths are nearly unavoidable. Gadaffi may be a brutal dictator and liar but I seriously doubt NATO has yet to kill a single civilian.

[alhoon]

The Libyan government says NATO killed over 30 people in Tripoli in 60 airstrikes carried out on Tuesday. Nuff said.

Gaddafi bombed his own capital. He was shelling Misrata day and night and his tanks had to be destroyed with airstrikes before they leveled the city, while he had snippers on the roofs.

He has to be stopped, he commited warcrimes and that can't go unpunished. Sure, it's tragic that 20-30 civilians died and that others will follow them, but compared to the number of civilians that would die if NATO didn't intervene and the rivers of blood that would flow from terrorists equipped and trained in Libya (as Gaddafi did in the 80s) justify the act.
Gaddafi has to be removed once and for all from Libya.

NATO has probably killed more Libyan civilians in order to ''protect civilians'' than Gaddafi ever did in his alleged massacres.

Source? Because not even Gaddafi says that.

I don't. NATO has used most of the heavy firepower in the conflict, including attacks on targets in civilian areas, so it is quite likely. Civilians get killed all the time in airstrikes, this is common knowledge.

Few of the airstrikes were in civilian areas and NATO took care to avoid civilian casualties. Also, it's common knowledge that when you shell a town for months and set up snippers in the roofs, civilians die too. As it's common knowledge that when you bring bombers and mercenaries to break up demonstrations, civilians die too. As it's common knowledge that when you cut off water and supplies for a large area, civilians will die too.

Remind me what ever made the propagandist lies of the rebel scumbags reliable, please?

Nothing, but when an unreliable dictator says "30 civilians" while bombers were brought by himself to break up demonstrations and he was sieging Misrata for months you tend to believe he killed more.

[Imperial]

Source is dubious, but I wouldn't say it's false. NATO is targeting air strikes in high populated cities full of civilians.

[saglam2000]

It's stupid when nations yell at NATO/America for purposely targeting civilians, if NATO wanted to target civis, the effect would be much worse. Having 30 civilian casualties out of 60 airstrikes is definitely not bad and every army would hope to get that low levels of collateral damage.

[Heathen Hammer]

It's stupid when nations yell at NATO/America for purposely targeting civilians, if NATO wanted to target civis, the effect would be much worse. Having 30 civilian casualties out of 60 airstrikes is definitely not bad and every army would hope to get that low levels of collateral damage.

NATO doesn't target civilians, its just that it doesn't really care about their casualties from its airstrikes.

Kaddafi do "better", he killed more than 10.000 of this own people since the beginning of this conflict and he could be worse if he had take Benghazi.

Source?

I heard he built a spaceship all by himself, sought out several advanced alien races, made an alliance based on mutual trust and respect, reigned succesfully for millions of years, became immortal and then fired the Halo Rings and killed the galaxy.

LOL.

[Darsh]

Source?

Franco Frattini a Italian diplomat said 2 months ago, there was 10.000 dead and 50.000 wonded in Lybia in the two first months.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Libya: 10,000 dead, Gaddafi did not leave until "by force"
Muammar Gaddafi will never leave power "except by force," he said Tuesday in Rome Libyan rebel leader, Moustapha Abdeljalil, that the conflict in his country has left 10,000 dead in two months.

April 19, 2011 8:49 p.m.

Colonel Gaddafi "will never give the power except by force," he said at a press conference the president of the National Transitional Council (CNT), a body representing the Libyan rebels, during a visit to the headquarters of the Italian Catholic Sant'Egidio community, known for his mediation in Africa.

Muammar Gaddafi "can not be compared" to the former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak or former Tunisian President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, said Mr. Abdeljalil, that the Libyan leader, in power for over 40 years , would be "accepted by any country" in case of exile. "It has all the richness of the Libyan people to his own service" and set the country on its "military adventures immoral," he denounced.

10,000 deaths and between 50,000 and 55,000 injured
Previously, during an interview with the Italian foreign minister Franco Frattini, Mr Abdeljalil had estimated the toll of the clashes in Libya to 10,000 deaths and between 50,000 and 55,000 injured.

After the meeting, Mr Frattini said that Italy intended to continue its support to the rebels from Libya, including trying to help sell their oil, to enable them to finance their fight against the forces of Muammar Gaddafi. This issue will be on the agenda of the next meeting of the Contact Group on Libya, which will be "the first week of May" in Rome, probably on May 2

The head of Italian diplomacy also assured the international community to seek ways "to make available to the Libyan people money who are part of the economic assets frozen" Colonel Gaddafi and his family.

The martyred city of Misrata
On the humanitarian front, Rome will increase the capacity for people seriously injured in Libya and reinforce the presence of doctors and nurses, some of which already operate in local hospitals, particularly in the "martyred city" of Misrata, besieged by the loyalist forces.

Mr. Abdeljalil also welcomed the rebels' links with Italy, the former colonial power and former key ally of Colonel Gaddafi. "There will be cooperation and friendship especially with Italy, France and Qatar, and with other friends such as Great Britain and the United States, "assured Mr. Abdeljalil about the policy to be pursued once the conflict ended.

So far, only France, Italy and Qatar have recognized the CNT as a legitimate representative in Libya instead of Muammar Gaddafi.

http://www.rtl.be/info/monde/interna...-par-la-force-