can anyone tell me which one is this Rohan Riders stamina?

**Ale_san** · June 08, 2011, 09:41 AM

type rohan rider
dictionary rohan_rider ; rohan rider
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade
soldier Feudal_Knights, 30, 0, 1
officer rohan_captain_early_flag
mount heavy horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, free_upkeep_unit
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 2, square
stat_health 1, 3
stat_pri 6, 9, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 5, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 5, 3, 3, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground -1, -1, -3, -2
stat_mental 12, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 740, 260, 100, 100, 740, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 2, 3
armour_ug_models rohan_rider, rohan_rider_upg
ownership milan
era 0 milan
era 1 milan
era 2 milan
recruit_priority_offset 15

and what number should i change it to so that they have more stamina?..thanks

**Noobio** · June 08, 2011, 10:19 AM

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=221093

irrelevant but nice to know...can someone confirm if the "druid" attribute works and how ?
-do you just add it in edu ?
-and what about the button ? is it automatically added in the battle ui ? if the unit had a special formation ,lets say shieldwall..what happens ?

**The Holy Pilgrim** · June 08, 2011, 10:20 AM

Yep, the Druid ability works. The button will show up in-game and all you have to do is add "druid" to the attributes line.

**Noobio** · June 08, 2011, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by The Holy Pilgrim

Yep, the Druid ability works. The button will show up in-game and all you have to do is add "druid" to the attributes line.

but if the same button (the one pointing at 10.00) is used for special-formations (for units) or even for hero abilities (for bg generals units) how does it work ? as a one off ? or does it replace the special formation's one (if there is one..) ?

ps
to h.pilgrim..helpful as always..thanks

to ale san ...
that is hardy or very_hardy ...attention to spaces, commas(,) and underlines(?how are they called anyway?)i mean these "_"

**The Holy Pilgrim** · June 08, 2011, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Noobas

but if the same button (the one pointing at 10.00) is used for special-formations (for units) or even for hero abilities (for bg generals units) how does it work ? as a one off ? or does it replace the special formation's one (if there is one..) ?

ps
to h.pilgrim..helpful as always..thanks

to ale san ...
that is hardy or very_hardy ...attention to spaces, commas(,) and underlines(?how are they called anyway?)i mean these "_"

Unfortunately, it will replace the standard ability, but Hero Powers and Captain abilities always override any "standard" ability.

**Noobio** · June 08, 2011, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by The Holy Pilgrim

Unfortunately, it will replace the standard ability, but Hero Powers and Captain abilities always override any "standard" ability.

by "standard ab" i guess you mean, special formations like sciltrom ,shield wall etc..

what would "captain abilities" be ? (maybe druid and screaming women?)

"hero abilities" by the way override ,but still don't replace the "special formation"..once all uses are over the special formation is made availiable IF the current bg unit isn't of the leading general,meaning the one with the highest command..in that case,or if he's the only general in battle,he'll have the "rally-horn" and the units special formation will not be availiable

example...
saruman ,even though his bg has the sciltrom (orhtanc guard) will never be able to use that as he's faction leader and thus,he'll always end up with the horn when he's done using his hero ability..

*they don't even interfere wih the deployment stakes..i gave faramir a hero ability i made..i could still deploy stakes and once the ability was over i could still use the flaming arrows..for the flaming arrows ,,at least when he wasn't the only or highest in command general on the battlefield ,cause in those cases he got the horn

i'd love to knpw how that horn could be completely dissed as it doesn't actually rally anyone...

**Withwnar** · June 10, 2011, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Noobas

they don't even interfere wih the deployment stakes..

Because stakes are only available during the deployment phase. It's a special case.

**Ale_san** · June 08, 2011, 10:41 AM

after reading that link u posted Noobas..the closest thing to stamina was this:

stat_heat 2
stat_heat – This is any extra fatigue that the unit gets in hot climates. The higher the number, the more fatigued the unit gets.

i don't think that's it though? is it? if i want them to have very good stamina i should lower stat_heat?

edit: u just answered it on my other thread sir add very hardy on attributes, got it..thanks..REP

**Ale_san** · June 08, 2011, 11:16 AM

thanks Noobas and btw these "_" are called under score..

**Noobio** · June 10, 2011, 07:41 AM

any idea on how to find the ordinary rally-horn's entry ? or is that hardcoded ?

**Withwnar** · June 10, 2011, 10:40 PM

Horn is given to whichever unit (general/captain) is commanding the army, so it must be a hardcoded/dynamic thing.

**Noobio** · June 11, 2011, 02:20 AM

hardcoded most probably..."dynamic" ..? i would'nt say ..

don't know why but it never really worked for me..i guess neither for developers as they did actually come up with a rally "hero-ab" (heart of the lion) in kingdoms...as far as i can remember it never really rallied my routing units...maybe it only adds a small morale effect..

**Withwnar** · June 11, 2011, 10:48 PM

Dynamic in that the game decides at runtime (battle time) whether the unit will have a horn. The same unit will not have one in the next battle if they are no longer the army's commanding unit. So it's not a fixed thing (= dynamic) but this decision logic is hardcoded, not set in the files.

I've seen the rallying work but not every time. Some routers can't be swayed. Most, perhaps. The horn is a morale booster: better at preventing routing than curing it in my experience.

**Noobio** · June 12, 2011, 02:26 AM

withwnar...

any idea if "screeching women" and "battlecry" (they should be like "druid") special "formations" work in med2-kingdoms and by consequence in third age too ?
i've seen their buttons entries (sprites in ui interface tga.files and buttons co-ordinates in batte.sd.xml) but no word of them in EDU ...so...

-do they work ?
-if yes..what do they do ? and most important..
-what "attribute" do you have to type in EDU for them ?

ps..
druid works just fine..i gave it to all troll units...

**Withwnar** · June 12, 2011, 03:51 AM

No idea I'm afraid. There was a screeching woman thread not long ago. Maybe an answer is in there.

I did find this in this thread:

warcry: no longer hardcoded to barbarians in 1.5/1.6. Gives the unit an attack bonus of 10

My guess is that it's not in M2TW/Kingdoms as it's not in Barbarians.

I love the Druid effect. I gave it to some knights in Stainless Steel once. It's funny to watch. But from memory they stop doing it once engaged in melee and it has a fairly short range of effect. So the unit needs to be near the enemy but not fighting; not very Troll-like behaviour.

But fun.

**Noobio** · June 12, 2011, 06:23 AM

i gave it to trolls cause i liked the animation and the moaning sfx..i think it mostly fitted them (maybe ents too..)

i made a question in the workshop section and i got replied that both warcry and screeching_women work...and that also their sfx can be changed..

i tried warcry but can't really tell what it does..they don't "warcry"..they just "taunt" interrupting their charge..seemed kinna silly to be honest..
maybe i'll just use em for variety and immersion..i have buttons made..so why not ? just another option for the player..

ps
thanks for the link! i'll take a look at it..