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    While there continues to be considerable focus on protests in Syria, Morrocco's monarchy is also facing a threat from mass protests spurred on by the successes of the "Arab Spring" this year.

    Morocco's uprisings and all the king's men
    Defiant demonstrators seeking democracy send a clear message against state repression and police violence.
    Emma Rosen Last Modified: 05 Jun 2011 15:45
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    Pro-democracy demonstrations began on February 20, and have recently gained momentum [GALLO/GETTY]
    Thousands poured into the streets of Rabat on Sunday June 5 to condemn the death of a protester and to demand an end to the country-wide government crackdown on peaceful demonstrations.

    "We are here today to protest the murder of Khaled al-Amari," said a 40-year-old Rabat resident who did not give her name out of fear of the authorities. "But we are also here because we demand dignity, democracy and freedom. This repression must end."

    Last Thursday, 30-year-old Khaled al-Amari, a member of Morocco's main opposition group, died after reportedly suffering a severe beating at the hands of police during a protest in the city of Safi. Officers deny that his death was a direct result of police violence, despite eyewitness accounts that he was severely beaten.



    Protesters held pictures of Khaled al-Amari, an alleged victim of police brutality, at a pro-democracy demonstration in Rabat [Emma Rosen]

    Police violence against peaceful demonstrators in Morocco has exploded in recent weeks, in what protesters say is a significant escalation of government repression.

    The swelling crowd proceeded from the Old City down Muhammed VI Avenue, many holding pictures of Khaled al-Amari's beaten face. Protesters chanted: "Down with despotism. We want freedom and dignity," and "peace, peace, freedom is coming," as they made their way to parliament. At many points in the march, protesters clasped each other's hands, sat down in the street, or waved peace signs in the air.

    "We are demanding democracy and dignity," declared Mohammed Aghmaj. "The police are not being violent today because there was a martyr. But we know they have been violent in the past," he said, referring to the relative calm at the demonstration.

    Coercing protestors and journalists

    The protesters are part of what has been termed the February 20 Movement, led largely by young people demanding pro-democracy reforms and an end to government corruption and repression - as well as an end to poverty and inequality. Launched on February 20 this year, the protests have swelled in conjunction with the so-called "Arab Spring" protests and revolutions sweeping the Middle East and North Africa. Gatherings continue regularly, culminating weekly in coordinated demonstrations throughout the country.

    Many believe that the recent escalation in violence is meant to quash mass mobilisations before the July 1 referendum on reforming the constitution. The referendum itself was a concession offered by King Muhammed VI to the February 20 Movement protesters.

    "Police have been given orders to break protesters' legs and heads," said Mohamed Elboukili, from the Moroccan human rights organisation Association Marocaine des Droits Humains ["Morrocan Association of Human Rights"]. "This is a very dangerous situation."

    Police violence against protests in several cities throughout Morocco on the past two Sundays have garnered international attention, with several images of police beatings captured on video. "According to the law, police must ask people to leave three times and give time for this," explains Elboukili. "But the police don't do this. They charge and beat people. In our opinion, this does not respect the right to peacefully demonstrate."

    Police violence has been accompanied by a crackdown on journalists. Last month, Al Jazeera was forced by the Moroccan government to cease broadcast operations in Rabat, with a ban on all land and satellite transmitters. Furthermore, Rachid Nini, editor of Morocco's el-Massa newspaper, who has been outspoken against government corruption, was jailed for writing articles critical of Morocco's security services and counter-terrorism law. Amnesty International has condemned the jailing as "a severe attack on freedom of expression". Last Wednesday, dozens of his supporters gathered in downtown Rabat to demand that the government release him.


    Protesters march in Rabat against the violent crackdown on demonstrations [Emma Rosen]

    The king's reppresive tactics

    The Association Marocaine des Droits Humains has received reports that police have started paying house visits to protest organisers' homes, telling them they should not attend protests. "Now they are intimidating and watching people, says Elboukili. "The police are making their presence known."

    This approach contrasts sharply with police treatment of pro-monarchy demonstrators on Sunday May 29. At midday, a pro-monarchy rally on Muhammad V Avenue in front of the parliament chanted slogans supporting the king, with many attendees holding his portrait. The crowd went undisturbed by police, who hung back leisurely at the outskirts. Journalists were allowed to roam freely, marking a drastic distinction from February 20 Movement protests, where journalists covered demonstrations at considerable personal risk from the police.

    One attendee, a Rabat native in his mid-fifties who did not give his name, explained: "This demonstration has a permit, unlike the other demonstrations," in reference to mobilisations of the February 20 movement.

    This comes on the heels of Saudi Arabia's invitation to Morocco to join what has been termed the "club of kings", the Gulf Cooperation Council, intended to protect the interests of monarchs against the "Arab Spring" uprisings throughout the region. While Morocco is a constitutional monarchy on paper, in practice, power is consolidated in the hands of the king, who can nominate and dismiss the prime minister and cabinet, dissolve parliament, and levy emergency powers.

    Muhammad VI is a close ally of the United States, which exports arms to the Moroccan government, reportedly to maintain its military occupation in Western Sahara. Muhammad VI has attracted praise from the Obama administration for his alleged moderation and embrace of democratic reforms.

    "Things need to change in my country," said a 35-year-old Casablanca resident who spoke on condition of anonymity. "This repression makes me fear for my children. We need so many things, we need education and freedom and an end to poverty. The people of Morocco are demanding change. We will not tolerate this repression."


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    I hope this ends up well for the Moroccan people

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    Quote Originally Posted by garudamon11 View Post
    I hope this ends up well for the Moroccan people
    don't be optimistic about it because there are lots of extremist force around the area and it depends since if the people got weapons or etc there will be yet another civil war

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    Normally I'm generally anti-monarchy, but in this case, I'd make an exception. Who are these people going to replace the monarchy with? It's been generally more liberal than even some Islamic republics.
    you're right what govt to replace if monarchy is overthrow? some iranian style theocracy AWESOME allah will be please with this democractic progress
    p.s are you trying to avoid contradicting your self by being anti-monarchy but making exceptions??? make your POINT stop confusing everyone

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    In that way, yea, still if the Muslim Brotherhood wins in Egypt, keeping Mubarak would have been a better option.
    It's also quite difficult to judge the Tunisian govt at the moment.
    ophhh you are supporting mubarak then? ohhhhhhh but seriously after a corrupt dictatorship comes down it turns into some kind of a fearsome theocracy afterthat they might start yet another jihad against Isreal since during Mubarak's era he is pro-isreal (to get american aid) as well as blocking the palestinians in gaza at their borders for a long while and the border's been recently opened after Mubarak's overthrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by The excited one View Post
    you're right what govt to replace if monarchy is overthrow? some iranian style theocracy AWESOME allah will be please with this democractic progress
    p.s are you trying to avoid contradicting your self by being anti-monarchy but making exceptions??? make your POINT stop confusing everyone
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    I know a couple of Moroccans that live here in Italy with their children, they are quite supportive of the monarchy but I think that they are biased because they come from rich families and for this they don't care to change the status quo. They think that the monarchy has a real legal foundation unlike dictatorships like the one of Gheddafi.

    Anyway they recognize that there isn't a real democracy in Morocco because you can't criticize the king and his family.

    Anyway I think that if people seek more democracy it is right to support them.

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    What do you mean by 'well'?
    its not as if they are being terrorized by the king or something like that
    are things really bad in morroco?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaccabiFanatic View Post
    What do you mean by 'well'?
    its not as if they are being terrorized by the king or something like that
    are things really bad in morroco?
    They will be when they revolt

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    I think in Morocco things will not change... with that opressive and authoritary monarchy supported by USA and France... and specially when a good part of the population, blindly support Mohamed VI...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordKainES View Post
    I think in Morocco things arenīt going to change... with that opressive and authoritary monarchy supported by USA and France...
    If the people will demonstrate en masse USA and France won't move any finger to protect the Monarchy like France hasn't done anything to protect the Tunisian president or like USA hasn't done anything to protect the Egyptian president.

    I remember when Luttwak was interviewed by the Italian television and explained well why it was so easy and smooth to remove Mubarak unlike Gheddafi: a head of state backed by the West can't shoot to his own people because the moment this happens then he loses any international support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔IPA35♔ View Post
    Low employment and such.
    What does this have to do with the monarchy.

    The monarchy hasn't exercised its "rights" since the 60s and is pretty much on the same level as the UK aside from sedition BS about you can't talk about the king which is alto the truth in some asian counties such as Thailand.

    Aside from that what are they protesting about? They have democracy. The government can't hand out jobs as candy.

    Morocco is probably the most liberal and democratic of Arab countries, I am wary of any "arab spring" there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanaric View Post
    What does this have to do with the monarchy.
    Nothing, but these protests are not against the monarchy itself.
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    The Moroccan monarchy is actually relatively benevolent. Similar to that of Jordan. Far from perfect but still essentially a good thing when compared to the horrendous pseudo-Marxist and Baathist style dictatorships long the bane of much of the Arabic speaking world. There have been reforms and the country has been spared many of the problems ravaging its neighbours (i.e Algeria). The monarchy is rightfully very popular. Hopefully the legitimate demands of the protesters are met in a civil manner.

    The people of Morocco should however be very wary of Salafists sniffing around in the corners.

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    I doubt that there will be any change. Even though it's just anecdotal, when I was in Morocco I noticed that the people viewed the king as god-like. One taxi-driver even told me he saved a plane from crashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotYetRegistered View Post
    I doubt that there will be any change. Even though it's just anecdotal, when I was in Morocco I noticed that the people viewed the king as god-like. One taxi-driver even told me he saved a plane from crashing.
    This is the problem! specially in a society with a high religious influence...

    I remember when I watched at TV one interview made by a spanish humourist to a moroccan humourist, the spanish one started to make jokes about king Juan Carlos I but when the moment arrived for the moroccan, he told him that he couldnīt make any joke about Mohamed VI... that he was Godīs representative in earth etc etc... even the moroccan humourist started to get angry later...

    Incredible how brainwashed are the poor moroccans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babur View Post
    While there continues to be considerable focus on protests in Syria, Morrocco's monarchy is also facing a threat from mass protests spurred on by the successes of the "Arab Spring" this year.



    http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...125272326.html

    ''Successes''? I'd rather wait to see what kind of governments come out of this before saying that word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    ''Successes''? I'd rather wait to see what kind of governments come out of this before saying that word.
    They were successes in that at least some have achieved their initial goal in the cases of Tunisia and Egypt.Yemen's leader is on the brink of resigning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babur View Post
    They were successes in that at least some have achieved their initial goal in the cases of Tunisia and Egypt.Yemen's leader is on the brink of resigning.
    In that way, yea, still if the Muslim Brotherhood wins in Egypt, keeping Mubarak would have been a better option.
    It's also quite difficult to judge the Tunisian govt at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    In that way, yea, still if the Muslim Brotherhood wins in Egypt, keeping Mubarak would have been a better option.
    That's really democratic. If people vote on a party you don't like, a dictator would be the better option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotYetRegistered View Post
    That's really democratic. If people vote on a party you don't like, a dictator would be the better option.
    A fascist theocracy isn't democratic either.
    Hitler was also democratically elected. I assume you approve that vote.
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