Siege Weapons

[Dantheman102100]

Inspired by the Roman skin thread's discussion on accuracy, I thought I would go ahead and ask this. Why are there no onagers or balistae in EB? I and Malrubius talked about this to a small degree. I mean, the Romans DID have onagers and balistae during the period of the late republic and early empire. If this only reason that EB cuts these out, wouldn't it be more historical to add them after one of the reforms? That is what we have the reforms for, to update the Roman war machine, right?

And even if you are dead set against onagers, the Greeks developed the catapult around 400 B.C. The onager in vanila is more like a catapult than a onager. Wouldn't it be more accurate to simply rename the dang thing and have it be more historical? It's not like a big machine that throws rocks or large arrows is unhistorical or beyond the scope of antiquity, weither it be a onager, catapult, helopolis, or balista or any number of other war machines.

[Dantheman102100]

EB team, I know you're out there! At least give me a reason why you are doing things the way you are. Comments, defend the way things are, tell me I'm crazy or something!

[QwertyMIDX]

Let me find the Org thread where we talked about this, I'll post a link.

Found it: http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...61#post1043961

[Dantheman102100]

Lots of big words...

I saw one team member (or at least his sig said so), I think his name was Shigawire, who said that onagers and ballistae will be used in the final release. Is this still the case? I noticed that it has been nearly two months when he said that.

[QwertyMIDX]

No Onagers, they're out of timeframe (not mentioned until 350 BC, but probably around from at least the 2nd century AD). We will have the stone throwing machine that preceded the Onager, the Lithobolos (roman: Ballista). There will also be a spear throwing machine, Oxybeles (roman: Catapulta).

[Dantheman102100]

No Onagers, they're out of timeframe (not mentioned until 350 BC, but probably around from at least the 2nd century AD). We will have the stone throwing machine that preceded the Onager, the Lithobolos (roman: Ballista). There will also be a spear throwing machine, Oxybeles (roman: Catapulta).

Yeah that's what I mean. Couldn't remember the name of those machines the other guy was talking about.