Mongols not appearing in hotseat mode?

**phonicsmonkey** · June 02, 2011, 03:24 AM

hi all - I'm trying to start a Mongols vs the world hotseat game in SS6.4 by using the hotseat function to skip the game ahead to when the Mongols appear and take control of them.

In vanilla I do this by making the mongols playable in descr_strat and then starting a game as another faction, using the console to switch the mongols from AI to human control and then switching my faction to AI control. The game goes on autopilot until the Mongols are spawned when it stops with a password screen and I can take them over.

In SS when I try the same trick the game just keeps running and running long past when the Mongols are supposed to have arrived and they never spawn.

Does anyone know why this might be?

**ksenagos** · June 02, 2011, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

hi all - I'm trying to start a Mongols vs the world hotseat game in SS6.4 by using the hotseat function to skip the game ahead to when the Mongols appear and take control of them.

Does anyone know why this might be?

why don't you just try to start a late early campaign...Mongols are playable there from the start and they have a huge army

**phonicsmonkey** · June 02, 2011, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by ksenagos

why don't you just try to start a late early campaign...Mongols are playable there from the start and they have a huge army

Thanks, it's an option but I prefer the situation where the horde arrives in waves. It suits the style of game I'm going for better.

Originally Posted by bane_tw

No idea - the exact same thing always works for me. Sure you are reaching the target turn? Might be useful to activate one of the other factions just to see where you are at.

I stopped it on turn 163 by activating france. They should have arrived by then right? It was 1262 AD

What date / turn number should they arrive? Maybe my campaign script is broken.

**bɑne** · June 02, 2011, 04:21 AM

No idea - the exact same thing always works for me. Sure you are reaching the target turn? Might be useful to activate one of the other factions just to see where you are at.

**Visorslash** · June 06, 2011, 06:04 AM

Bump. Maybe let it keep running? I've never gotten that far in a SS game, as I win before that.

**phonicsmonkey** · June 06, 2011, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Visorslash

Bump. Maybe let it keep running? I've never gotten that far in a SS game, as I win before that.

Yeah maybe. I ran it again overnight (9 hours!) and reached only turn 167 with no luck. I could run it more from the same point tonight.

Can anyone tell me what year they are supposed to arrive?

**bɑne** · June 07, 2011, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

Yeah maybe. I ran it again overnight (9 hours!) and reached only turn 167 with no luck. I could run it more from the same point tonight.

Can anyone tell me what year they are supposed to arrive?

With early era selected, open ...SS folder\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign\campaign_script.txt
Search for

Code:

;=============== Golden Horde Emergent ==================

Code:

Look for the monitor
monitor_event EventCounter EventCounterType mongols_invasion
    and EventCounter = 1
    and I_IsFactionAIControlled mongols

Remove the line "and I_IsFactionAIControlled mongols" and it should work on a new campaign.

I'll upload a save you can use with my next post.

**-Myth-** · June 07, 2011, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by bane_tw

With early era selected, open ...SS folder\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign\campaign_script.txt
Search for

Code:

;=============== Golden Horde Emergent ==================

Code:

Look for the monitor
monitor_event EventCounter EventCounterType mongols_invasion
    and EventCounter = 1
    and I_IsFactionAIControlled mongols

Remove the line "and I_IsFactionAIControlled mongols" and it should work on a new campaign.

I'll upload a save you can use with my next post.

We who are about to die (to the Mongols), salute you!

**bɑne** · June 07, 2011, 06:28 AM

Attached hotseat savegame

**phonicsmonkey** · June 07, 2011, 02:59 PM

You beauty! Thanks!

**phonicsmonkey** · June 24, 2011, 10:29 PM

Quick question bane_tw, will the Mongols get their scripted reinforcements or do I need to amend the script further to make sure that happens? I can see a few instances of AndFactionisAI dotted about...

**Rougeman** · June 25, 2011, 01:01 AM

wherever it says it youll have to delete the line, or else you wont be getting the reinforcments

**phonicsmonkey** · June 25, 2011, 04:31 AM

cheers, makes sense of course...

**bɑne** · June 25, 2011, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by Rougeman

wherever it says it youll have to delete the line, or else you wont be getting the reinforcments

Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

cheers, makes sense of course...

There are also scripted attack orders for said reinforcements etc behind those monitor sections so to clarify:
Wherever it ONLY concerns reinforcements. One error here and your campaign can be toast, the engine error handling is non-existent.

**phonicsmonkey** · June 25, 2011, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by bane_tw

There are also scripted attack orders for said reinforcements etc behind those monitor sections so to clarify:
Wherever it ONLY concerns reinforcements. One error here and your campaign can be toast, the engine error handling is non-existent.

Yeah I experienced that already. I realised I had to do some extra editing because I saw the sections about scripted attack, scripted recruitment etc.

I took them all out. Think I formatted it all correctly but I'll test the save before I use it by running it forward a bunch of turns to check..

**Rougeman** · June 25, 2011, 08:05 AM

ahh ok lol, saved me there, was about to edit the script and play as the mongols

**bɑne** · June 26, 2011, 05:57 AM

Always a good idea

I recommend notepad++ - whatever you do don't use wordpad.

**phonicsmonkey** · June 26, 2011, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by bane_tw

Always a good idea

I recommend notepad++ - whatever you do don't use wordpad.

Totally, Notepad++ all the way. I'm just going to run the game forward until all the Mongol script is finished and see whether it crashes. I got three waves of reinforcements so far with no issues so it looks good, but better to be safe than sorry.

By the way if it works and anyone wants a copy of my campaign script so they can use it themselves, just let me know and I'll upload it here.

Also, if you are interested in joining the hotseat game I'm creating it for, post here and let me know.