dismounted deagoons

in case nobody noticed, dismounted dragoons can shoot(obvious) AND they have ranked fire oh yes they do have ranked fire, but the 1st line does not squat, they just keep firing while standing.. sorry i have no pics 4 u guys but try it

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sorry, could you change the thread name to "dismounted dragoons"? i din check the spelling juz nw... oops.....

They're harder to shoot too as I found out with skirmishers in a multiplayer game yesterday...

Make sure the horses are not in the line of fire though.

yeah thats true, if i want infantry, i would get line infantry not dragoons and dismount them haha but still, pretty cool though

I never dismount dragoons, but rather use them as heavy cavalry

Only time I dismount dragoons is when all hope is lost and it'll probably be better to put them in a house.

That's a nice idea, it could be used as a distraction for enemy army close to a building in order to stay put while you pound them with arty and advance with your own army to a vantage point.

Another good use i found for them today is to place them on plateaus, they rarely get hit by being on them and they can provide covering fire and a fallback point (if you advance close to the enemy's flank in order to deploy your horse arty) for your cav from enemy cav and infantry.

Dragoons, especially light dragoons, along with mounted jagers are quite effective as infantry once you get the hang of them. What you want to do is use them as a rapid reaction force for flanking movements when infantry would just be too slow.

You can press the dismount button while they are still moving, they then stop and dismount on their own. You want to do this about 200 yards from the enemy you intend to attack. Then you move them to half their maximum firing range (they have carbines, so fire less accurately) and fire into the enemy ranks from their rear. If they turn to return fire, have your line infantry units charge their rear.

Originally Posted by SMIDSY

Dragoons, especially light dragoons, along with mounted jagers are quite effective as infantry once you get the hang of them. What you want to do is use them as a rapid reaction force for flanking movements when infantry would just be too slow.

You can press the dismount button while they are still moving, they then stop and dismount on their own. You want to do this about 200 yards from the enemy you intend to attack. Then you move them to half their maximum firing range (they have carbines, so fire less accurately) and fire into the enemy ranks from their rear. If they turn to return fire, have your line infantry units charge their rear.

If you have enough time to have your dragoons dismount, rush them up to the enemy infantry body and approach to half their max firing range then don't you think you could just as well have charged them right into the rear of the enemy formation and gotten much better results?

Originally Posted by antred

If you have enough time to have your dragoons dismount, rush them up to the enemy infantry body and approach to half their max firing range then don't you think you could just as well have charged them right into the rear of the enemy formation and gotten much better results?

It all depends on the situation. And yes, you do have time if you are quick on the mouse.

They take fewer casualties if they don't engage in hand to hand, not to mention the enemy line may form a square. Let me also state that this is a tactic you want to use once you have taken control of the engagement.

Originally Posted by SMIDSY

Dragoons, especially light dragoons, along with mounted jagers are quite effective as infantry once you get the hang of them. What you want to do is use them as a rapid reaction force for flanking movements when infantry would just be too slow.

You can press the dismount button while they are still moving, they then stop and dismount on their own. You want to do this about 200 yards from the enemy you intend to attack. Then you move them to half their maximum firing range (they have carbines, so fire less accurately) and fire into the enemy ranks from their rear. If they turn to return fire, have your line infantry units charge their rear.

Mounted Jaegers can shoot while mounted . . . so they're better off staying mounted. then again, it sounds like you guys talk about singleplayer so it really doesn't matter XD. Online mp tho, you would not want to dismount anything because I'll just charge cav straight into them, and they'll immediately rout.

I normally use my dragoons as heavy cavalry. The only times I have them actually dismount is when I play a supporting army that is fed onto the battlefield piecemeal. Since the order in which units arrive on the map is usually ( general -> cavalry -> artillery -> infantry ), I need at least some basic infantry support for my horse arty ... at least until the main body of my army arrives.

On a side note, why does changing the order in which my units arrive almost never work? It tells me on the pre-battle screen to drag the unit cards around to change the order, but the damned cards aren't actually draggable!! This used to work fine in ETW!

I use dragoons as a flanking force mainly. I have them shoot at the sides of enemy advancements and I also use them to reinforce my lines, protect light infrantry.

They also make a nice "fire brigade" you can stick in the line in a pinch while on the defense.

Historically, Dragoons were Infantry on horses.

Are you better off having dragoons shoot at somebody while dismounted, or charge into somebody a few times while on horseback? I find that charging them on horseback allows my foot units time to reload and dress their lines. When my dragoons fall back I have my foot units open fire, then charge my dragoons again.

I don't normally use them, I use light or heavy cav.

Dragoons break enemy formations. You send a couple of them behind enemy lines which forces them to break. You can send them to quickly capture a narrow passage and then dismount them to create an effective barrier. Think of them as fast moving light infantry who can effective engage in melee cavalry roles as well.

any cav unit can do that. But are there any pros to dismounting them?

Originally Posted by WarOfAges1776

any cav unit can do that. But are there any pros to dismounting them?

In my opinion, no. As I've said before, if you have enough time to dismount them, have them form a line and begin firing then you very likely have enough time to simply deliver a good charge in the rear of the enemy formation, which should be a heck of a lot more decisive than a couple of volleys from some 60 odd rifles.

agreed.

Although sometimes i like dismounting my generals just for the novelty.