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**jack99** · May 31, 2011, 06:47 AM

i know im dumb but can someone tell me wat shadowing a faction means plz

**Squid** · May 31, 2011, 11:30 AM

Shadowing a faction is when a second faction exists where revolts from the main faction will revolt to the second faction.

**jack99** · May 31, 2011, 01:24 PM

cheers m8

**attyla** · June 01, 2011, 10:14 AM

You wanted to say that revolting faction making the next faction? As in Barbarian TW?

**Squid** · June 01, 2011, 10:16 AM

Yes its the mechanism that ere and ere rebels as well as wre and wre rebels used in BI.

**attyla** · June 01, 2011, 10:26 AM

how to use it? Should i make special/"shadows" faction for using it?

**Squid** · June 01, 2011, 10:29 AM

Look at the shadowing tutorial for RTW/BI.

**attyla** · June 01, 2011, 10:32 AM

and it's the same way in MTW2 ?

**Squid** · June 01, 2011, 10:57 AM

They use the same engine and almost everything in M2TW is the same as in RTW.

**attyla** · June 01, 2011, 12:35 PM

the last question: what's the difference between shadowing and shadowing by another faction?

**Squid** · June 01, 2011, 12:44 PM

Which is the primary faction and which is the secondary. Look at the BI descr_sm_factions and the roman factions for an example.

**attyla** · June 01, 2011, 12:59 PM

Can you attach this file? I don't have BI.

**Squid** · June 01, 2011, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by attyla

Can you attach this file? I don't have BI.

Can't, uploading vanilla files is against the ToS and illegal.

You could always just do as I suggested and look at the tutorial http://www.twcenter.net/wiki/Hording_and_Emergent_Factions_-_RTW/BI which has sample of the relevant lines.

**Moon** · June 01, 2011, 03:01 PM

You can download an amended descr_sm_factions file in a zip from this link, post 18.
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**attyla** · June 01, 2011, 04:08 PM

Thank you Moon. I know now what's going on

Thank you Squid - this link may be very helpfull.

The last two question in this therad (i hope

):
1. how many unpayable faction (controlled by AI) may i add to the game?
2. maybe you know how to spawn heretic priests by scripting? I of course may add heretic priests do shadowing factions and spawning them, but in this case i should activing this shadowed faction before the will be emerging. It's a viciuos circle.

**irishron** · June 01, 2011, 01:49 PM

Buy it.

**TNZ** · June 07, 2011, 03:35 AM

If i would like to make shadowed faction - should i make it as i woluld make a new faction?

attyla: Yes.

**attyla** · June 07, 2011, 04:56 AM

uhhhhh.... There is to less factions for my needs...

Another question:
1. i wounder is there possible to make shadowed faction existing at starting the game without loss of possibilities of shadowing?
2. I have a problem with giving units for generals of shadowing faction. How to locate the place of emerging and how to add units for them? (i guess using spawn_army command wolulb be not proper for this activity)